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TOPIC: PIP award ends after 3 years, process for reapplication?

PIP award ends after 3 years, process for reapplication? 9 months 1 week ago #151947

My PIP award will end later this year, Last year I was awarded 3 years, it was backdated to my application date. I had to go to a tribunal and won though some parts of my condition were not recognised which I was really unhappy about, this part of my condition has worsened since yet has no recognition. I get lower rate and no mobility as I don't need it.

I am already getting worried about it ending and what will the process be to reapply, will I have to go through it all again? I have a long term condition since birth. This is the first time I have applied for a disability benefit, I work part time just two days a week as that is what I can manage.

Am I likely to be contacted by DWP before it ends?
What is the re application process, how does it work?
What is the likelihood of me getting awarded PIP again?
Your help will be much appreciated.
Thanks
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PIP award ends after 3 years, process for reapplication? 9 months 1 week ago #151964

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You should be contacted no later than 20 weeks before your current award ends, the DWP will send you a new PIP2 form to complete . This will be a full review of your claim and a new Decision will be made as a result.

As you had problems with your original claim, you will need to consider how you can better complete the PIP2 to deal with the issues that arose and meant you had to appeal.

You should have a copy of the assessment report as part of your appeal papers, plus of course anything you submitted as part of your appeal. I would go through these with the current PIP Claim guide to see if you can deal with the issues.

You can do this on separate pages and then attach them to the PIP2 when you receive it.

If you have further questions then reply to this post and we will do our best to help.

Gordon
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PIP award ends after 3 years, process for reapplication? 9 months 1 week ago #152176

Hi Gordon

Thank you for your reply, I don't know what I would do without this service.

I have all my paperwork from the past.

Please can you explain what is the assessment report you mention, what kind of things are in it? Is it from the tribunal, DWP or ?

just a little bit more info on my PIP

DWP awarded me 7 points, Tribunal awarded me 8 however; Where DWP gave me 2 points for engaging with people, these were taken away by the tribunal, managing therapy however went from 1 point from DWP to 4 from the tribunal. I actually believe I should have maximum points for managing therapy but that was not recognised despite lots of explaining from both myself and my carers. Regarding engaging with people I find this really difficult yet it was not recognised by the court panel.

I gave a huge amount of evidence, diaries, drs letters, specialists letters going back yrs to show the condition is not likely to improve, letters from my carers and diaries from them, photographs., lists of prescriptions etc. Will I have to do up to date diaries, and give in all the same old letters from Drs etc. and get new evidence from my carers, updated letter from my Dr etc.

Is it literally like starting a new claim or will DWP take history into account and the fact that I did get 8 points from the tribunal which enabled me to receive payments.

Any advice much appreciated

:dry:
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PIP award ends after 3 years, process for reapplication? 9 months 1 week ago #152217

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The Assessment report will have been produced by either ATOS or Capita depending on what area you live in.

It's normally referred to as the PA4.

When you current claim comes up for renewal you should treat it as if it is a new claim. You can't rely on the DWP or the assessor to access any of the information from your current claim or the Tribunal so if you want them to see anything you need to include it with your new PIP2.

Gordon
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PIP award ends after 3 years, process for reapplication? 4 months 5 days ago #164740

Hi Gordon,

Referring back to this post as it appears things have changed due to a new form. Please can you advise.
Is the AR1 form being used across the country now?
If the answer to all the questions but one is no change and one is harder could this mean a full PIP form has to be redone?

I believe a new PIP guide is in the process of being written which will have some guidelines to the AR1 form, do you have any idea when this guide will be available?

Regards
Hawthorn
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PIP award ends after 3 years, process for reapplication? 4 months 5 days ago #164777

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At this time we have not been able to get access to any of the DWP's procedures in regard to this new PIP form, so we do not know if it is being used for all reassessments or just some and if the latter, what the criteria are.

Nobody is far enough through the process yet for us to confirm what the next action would be, but we expect that any claimant notifying a change will receive a PIP2 to complete, it is possible that those notifying a worsened condition who are already on the highest rates for PIP may avoid this.

I'm hoping the updated guide will be available in the next couple of weeks.

Gordon
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