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7 years 2 months ago #180750 by DRAGON2009
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I am wondering about this. I have a supportive GP and he has agreed in princoiple to do a support letter. He is co operative and I am sure would calibrate it as favourable as possible whilst ensuring that its content is consistent with what he would expecvt given the diagnosis

Is it really necessary to get the GP to address the desciptors specifically or doesnt that seem a bit choereographed. Is it sufficient to set out the fact they know you as a patient well and see often over the years and diagnosis is this, prognosis ois this asnd difficulties are
X Y Z etc which are consistent with the naturee of the medical conditoiomns and tgheir chronicity etc

I think its probably as well to get as much as possible out of thre GP but not to expoecvt them to stray too far from their knowledge of you. There must be no impression of being coached . I am sure just a 'factual letter ' about diagnosis/ prognosis is verging on useless.

and I think it wouild not be helpful if the wording (say in relation to social interaction) says something like patient s prefers to avoid company... it wojuld be translated as being a non medical choice .

Does the above sound sort of reasonable ? hard to know just how far to expect the GP to expand . On the other hand a comprehensive letter urged for earlier could potentially prevent rejevtion and having to ask for a better letter later at appeal

Really rather undecided about how much to expect of GP

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7 years 2 months ago #180754 by David
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Hi
DWP do not care what is wrong with you, only which descriptors best describe how you manage the specific actions

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7 years 2 months ago #180755 by Gordon
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XFACTOR

Perhaps it's something to ask your GP about.

Yes there is an issue of coaching, but the assessment is about your functional ability to complete the PIP Activities, the more they stick to providing a medical answer the more you are reliant on those assessing you being able link your conditions to your problems.

As an example it might be reasonable to infer that someone with Arthritis in their legs might have problems with walking but an assessor may struggle to make the link to the fact that they also might have problems standing when preparing food and washing and that it also impacts on their ability to dress and undress.

The issues could be even worse for someone with mental health problems.

Gordon

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7 years 2 months ago #181928 by DRAGON2009
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I would like to ask whether under PIP there is any rule that could be used against a claimant who chooses not to take medication over many years for mental heqalth problems . ??? I would add that paymetns for IB , ESA and DLA have not been denied despite this

Also there is evidence on file that the psychiatrisrts have not felt medication would help much

My impression is that examining healthcare practitioners for PIP might extrapolate a lack of severity from meds not being provided or taken

Also I should like to ask whether under PIp with Capita it is easy or very diffoicult to get agreement to a home visit for those with anxiety and agorophobia problems ? And can it done without troubling the GP for a further letter (having already sought a supportive letter)

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7 years 2 months ago - 7 years 2 months ago #181929 by slugsta
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Hi XF,

I have merged your question with your previous topics relating to your PIP as we ask members to keep everything relating to the same claim in one place.

We have certainly seen assessment reports that make it clear the assessor has taken the claimant's medication into account. This is usually in a negative manner when they have decided that the claimant cannot be severely affected as they take only 'mild' (or no) medication.

In order to counter this, you should explain why you have chosen to avoid medication. It sounds as if the consultant's report would be helpful in supporting this - do you have a copy?

We hear from many members who have been refused home assessments. I'm afraid you are unlikely to be successful without backing from your medic, explaining why you would be unable to attend an assessment centre.

If/when you have further questions or comments about your PIP please reply to this, rather than starting a new topic, and we will do our best to help. You will find it easily in future if you bookmark/favourite it on your web browser now. Alternatively you can click on your username (in blue when you are logged into the forum) and it will bring up a list of all your previous messages :)

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7 years 2 months ago #181934 by Gordon
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XFACTOR

Just to add, claimants cannot be required to undertake therapy or treatment (including the taking of medicine), but the DWP are able to assume how the claimant might be if they did. If there are reasons for avoiding treatment, whatever they may be, you need to explain these to prevent those assumptions being made.

Gordon

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