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7 years 3 weeks ago #182785 by reiver97
Hi

I have a PIP assessment on the 28th. I had been awarded PIP enhanced Daily Living (12 points) and standard Mobility (10pt) in Nov 2016 for two years without an assessment, just on evidence provided.

However, got the review form in November and now have an assessment at a centre in a town a few miles away. My GP contacted Atos on my behalf to explain I cannot attend due to psychological distress and requested a home assessment. They refused on health and safety grounds (potential for me reacting badly) and said I must attend. He offered the use of his surgery which is close to my home, but still they insisted I have to attend the assessment in the other town.

As I was awarded 10 points mobility on ground of not being able to make a journey due to psychological distress, I am guessing I will lose this as I will have had to make a journey to the assessment. Of course not attending means losing PIP altogether.

Assuming this happens, what are the experiences of people in this situation? Has anyone been able to get the points back in mandatory reconsideration after showing that they did indeed suffer extreme psychological distress after being forced to attend, or is this a lost cause and I should concentrate on keeping my 12 points in Daily Living?

Any advice appreciated.

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7 years 2 weeks ago #182823 by Gordon
reiver

Can anybody attend with you, this may mitigate any concerns over whether you meet the criteria for a Mobility award?

I certainly wouldn't give up on the Mobility, if you do then it is almost certain that you will lose it. You need to explain how you have managed to attend at their offices with only minimal problems.

Gordon

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7 years 2 weeks ago #182927 by reiver97
Hi Gordon. Thankfully my GP put a former CPN in touch with me who now works as a patient advocate and she is going to take me to the assessment and sit in with me, so hopefully this will help somewhat (both me at the time, and in holding onto my Mobility points).
I note in the B&W guide to PIP is states that an award of 10pts for "can make no journey" is unlikely to be given if you attend a face-to-face away from home.

I had hoped that I may make up points on planning journey etc in the other award considerations for that section of Mobility, other than the "can make no journey" of my original award. But of course the news at the weekend of the change to the rules may stymie this if my award is delayed until mid-March.

I am not optimistic but we will see how it goes.
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7 years 2 weeks ago #182979 by Bill24chev
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Reiver07

I note in the B&W guide to PIP is states that an award of 10pts for "can make no journey" is unlikely to be given if you attend a face-to-face away from home.

This seems to be a CATCH 22 situation.

But the PIP assessment Guide, page129/130 mentions that this descriptor (E) applies if claimrnt cannot go out on the "Majority" of days.

So if you explain this with some confirmation from your Avcocate/CPN you should, if the HCP follows the Guidence correctly be Ok but it may need a MR or Appeal.

I woul down load a copy of the PIPaseesment guide Page129 and 130 with you and ask the Advocate show it to ther assessor on your behalf.

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7 years 2 weeks ago #182988 by Gordon
Bill

The Descriptor uses the word "cannot", I think it reasonable to argue that this does not mean never given the requirement for the activity to be performed reliably, but I would expect the level of restriction to be far higher than "on the majority of days".

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7 years 2 weeks ago #183088 by reiver97
Had the assessment yesterday. In light of the new restrictions regarding mobility points and psychological distress, during that part of the assessment the assessor explicitly asked "do you have problems with walking, other than for reasons of psychological distress". So it would appear that they are using the new rules already, even before they are officially adopted.
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