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6 years 11 months ago #186865 by Johninpain
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Pip mandatory reconsideration returned with no change which i know it is not unusual but it reads as if he just copied the original decision but left out the silly things like me being able to use my feet to prepare food ( as i have a duff arm) but my question is should the decision maker of listed the items they both used to make there decisions as both have only listed the "how your disability affects you form" but seems to of only used the assessment report which is a work of fiction but it is not listed a a source is this right?

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6 years 11 months ago #186917 by Gordon
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Johninpain wrote: Pip mandatory reconsideration returned with no change which i know it is not unusual but it reads as if he just copied the original decision but left out the silly things like me being able to use my feet to prepare food ( as i have a duff arm) but my question is should the decision maker of listed the items they both used to make there decisions as both have only listed the "how your disability affects you form" but seems to of only used the assessment report which is a work of fiction but it is not listed a a source is this right?


The DM can choose what evidence they prefer it's also possible that they have either forgot or failed to document the other information.

The PIP Appeal guide has links to the SSCS1 form that you will need to complete and the Submissions guide has a complete example that you can use to help you fill it in, you do not need to provide detailed reasons at this stage for your request.

Once your appeal is accepted the DWP will prepare their submission to the hearing and send you a copy, whilst you should wait until you receive this to finish and submit your own, you should start to prepare your own case, an increased award will only be made by your showing that you score the extra points for one, so I would start by going back through your PIP2, the assessment report and the PIP Claim guide to see how you might show this is the case.

If you have further questions then please reply to this post and we will do our best to help.

Gordon

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6 years 11 months ago #186936 by Johninpain
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Thank you so if I have this right if a DM used the assessment report and my original form they need to write I used dwp medical report and your how my disability affects you form is that correct ?
As on both original decision and the Mr only list "your how your disability affects you form" and the MR also says "extra information you sent us " but nothing specific and both refer heavily to the medical report and none of my evidence at all even thought there is an upto date letter from my GP proving all I have stated in my original form
Also on the medical assessment form the HP has not listed anything as also looked at evidence even though I sent in at least 20 sheets from drs gps specialists all that she says is "various evidence all before 2012?" But this is very wrong

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6 years 11 months ago #186941 by Johninpain
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Sorry one more thing should I ask for copies of the information they used to make there decisions or not? I added a pile of paperwork with the original form but all seems to of been dismissed as too old 2012-2017 but it takes so long to see a specialist and I have been told unless I get worse ie not able to walk at all there is nothing they can do except pain relief as the risk of the op they can offer of causing complete immobility is not worth it if I can still move as soon as it gets bad enough to make me immobile they said the op they can offer May help but odds are low so I don't have any new info from my surgeon does this matter?

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6 years 11 months ago #186971 by Gordon
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Johninpain wrote: Thank you so if I have this right if a DM used the assessment report and my original form they need to write I used dwp medical report and your how my disability affects you form is that correct ?
As on both original decision and the Mr only list "your how your disability affects you form" and the MR also says "extra information you sent us " but nothing specific and both refer heavily to the medical report and none of my evidence at all even thought there is an upto date letter from my GP proving all I have stated in my original form
Also on the medical assessment form the HP has not listed anything as also looked at evidence even though I sent in at least 20 sheets from drs gps specialists all that she says is "various evidence all before 2012?" But this is very wrong


These are matters that you can raise at an appeal, but remember, an appeal resets everything and it doesn't really matter if the DM looked at your extra evidence or not, the panel will look at everything with fresh eyes.

Gordon

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6 years 11 months ago #186974 by Gordon
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Johninpain wrote: Sorry one more thing should I ask for copies of the information they used to make there decisions or not? I added a pile of paperwork with the original form but all seems to of been dismissed as too old 2012-2017 but it takes so long to see a specialist and I have been told unless I get worse ie not able to walk at all there is nothing they can do except pain relief as the risk of the op they can offer of causing complete immobility is not worth it if I can still move as soon as it gets bad enough to make me immobile they said the op they can offer May help but odds are low so I don't have any new info from my surgeon does this matter?


If you appeal then the DWP submission will include all of the documents included in the making of the Decision, if some are missing then you can submit them your self pointing out that they were sent to the DWP.

Gordon

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