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TOPIC: esa migration date in news section

esa migration date in news section 6 years 10 months ago #14357

Hello

I have read today that migration is to commence in October 2010.

1. Will the DWP honor existing review dates scheduled in IB cases (and migrate at the review date) or migrate the claimant earlier than their IB review date ? So if you have a letter from IB saying you recently passed PC and wont be reviewed until 2012 will they just supercede that and migrate in 2010/2011 and apply the ESA PCA ?


2 and there is a question about fairness as to how it is done. Imagine you have two claimants of IB living next door to one another, under thew new ESA criteria they would likely fail the assessment. DWP migrate claimant A in 2010 and claimant B in 2013. This would mean claimant B would be over 10 thousand pounds better off

Any replies appreciated
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Re:esa migration date in news section 6 years 10 months ago #14358

DRAGON2009 wrote:
Hello

I have read today that migration is to commence in October 2010.

1. Will the DWP honor existing review dates scheduled in IB cases (and migrate at the review date) or migrate the claimant earlier than their IB review date ? So if you have a letter from IB saying you recently passed PC and wont be reviewed until 2012 will they just supercede that and migrate in 2010/2011 and apply the ESA PCA ?


2 and there is a question about fairness as to how it is done. Imagine you have two claimants of IB living next door to one another, under thew new ESA criteria they would likely fail the assessment. DWP migrate claimant A in 2010 and claimant B in 2013. This would mean claimant B would be over 10 thousand pounds better off

Any replies appreciated


Hi,

Unless Steve or anyone has further information to the newletter sent, then I am afraid I do not know.

Originally the plan was to migrate the under 25's first onto ESA with the remainder after the under 25's had been completed. Whether or not that still stands god only knows.

I suppose until further information is forthcoming from either the DWP or at ministerial level into the mechanics of the migration, I don't think anyone can safely say how the migration process will run.

However it seems that both ATOS and the DWP are currently struggling keeping up with current claims, so as Steve's news article states unless there is investment in more staff and facilities, the migration could take quite a long time.

Regards

Pete
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Re:esa migration date in news section 6 years 10 months ago #14363

Thanks for the reply

I hope somehow somebody has some idea about how it will work. There are literally hundreds of thousands if not over a million claimants with a review date beyond October 2010 and some well beyond 2011, there could be some very disappointed and stressed claimants (as well as overwhelmed advice services) if this migration produces not only transfer onto ESA but simulatenous application of the test.

I think the test will be applied irrespective of the IB review date otherwise the enormous savings envisaged by these reforms would not be possible..... But I hope I am wrong !!
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Re:esa migration date in news section 6 years 10 months ago #14366

I've been wondering this too and also if I am receiving DLA in addition to IB and were to be found fit for work by the ESA assessment, would this mean I would automatically end up losing both? Or would they be assessed seperately?

My IB is up for reassessment this March but I have been awarded DLA until May 2011 - I was hoping the fact that I have been awarded DLA for that long would be taken into consideration when reassessing my IB and would help matters, has anyone got any experience/views on this?

Now with the new ESA assessment rather than thinking that being awarded one benefit will help in applying again for the other, I'm now worried it will actually end up losing me the other.

I've felt stressed about the whole thing since last year when it first came up, so I'm pretty sure the whole thing is doing noone's health any good whatsoever and now we also have a possible new government to worry about. :(

Where do they even get the idea that 'almost everyone' is actually capable of being helped back into work, other than from the basic prejudice that anyone claiming benefits must be lying, surely that is a totally unreaslistic statement anyway or is it just me? :unsure:

Bunny
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Re:esa migration date in news section 6 years 10 months ago #14369

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I'm afraid we are mere moderators, not mindreaders and other than what Steve has stated in the recent newsletter we don't know what the DWP will or won't do with regard to honouring existing review dates.

Hopefully, the DWP will issue more information before the migration process commences, which is a while off yet.
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Re:esa migration date in news section 6 years 10 months ago #14437

I wasn't asking anyone to be mind readers I was asking if anyone had experience of renewal of their benefits being easier when they already had another benefit in place and had had that renewed and giving my views on the news. I thought that was the purpose of this forum.
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