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7 years 4 months ago #174918 by keeptrying
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thank you Gordon
I am currently trying to order the notes and thoughts I have had over the past weeks
I will call the TS tomorrow before I send anything
one point
in their submission dwp say that 'journey' means LOCAL JOURNEY
since when????
I am thinking they said that just to imply that unfamiliar journeys would not be local and therefore not relevant
and what constitutes a 'local' journey anyway? - the same road, town, building, county? - surely it is irrelevant
I am currently trying to order the notes and thoughts I have had over the past weeks
I will call the TS tomorrow before I send anything
one point
in their submission dwp say that 'journey' means LOCAL JOURNEY
since when????
I am thinking they said that just to imply that unfamiliar journeys would not be local and therefore not relevant
and what constitutes a 'local' journey anyway? - the same road, town, building, county? - surely it is irrelevant
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7 years 4 months ago #174929 by Gordon
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Walker
There are no definitions for "journey" it is down the claimant to explain the limitations of what they can achieve, in a similar vein an unfamiliar place does not have to be far away but you must think about the counter arguments for it being local as there will be an expectation that most people will be familiar with the area around where they live, at least to some degree.
Gordon
There are no definitions for "journey" it is down the claimant to explain the limitations of what they can achieve, in a similar vein an unfamiliar place does not have to be far away but you must think about the counter arguments for it being local as there will be an expectation that most people will be familiar with the area around where they live, at least to some degree.
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7 years 4 months ago #174931 by keeptrying
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I agree with what you are saying so don't know why they mentioned it as 'local' in their submission
I am still trying to pull stuff together and keep thinking of more to ask you
I am so so sorry for going on so much
when you, or others, have had tribunals, have you referred to this site, or the advice given here like the pip booklet?
and if you did - how did you? I mean what do you say
I don't want them asking something about where I got my ideas/information/support, and then having some sort of advers/weird reaction to what I say
at the moment I am going through the dwp resonse (just a few paragraphs) and clarifying/responding with my view
one point they made was
X stated in her appeal issues not covered by the assessment criteria that can't be considered when deciding eligibility for benefit, including being driven in a car
but surely it should be considered if I have to be driven because I cannot use the public transport/drive myself?
and if it is not relevant, then neither is their mention of the job I last did 8 yrs ago
my head is spinning, I feel sick and dizzy, and on the verge of tears
and I don't know if I will get this done by tomorrow
I am still trying to pull stuff together and keep thinking of more to ask you
I am so so sorry for going on so much
when you, or others, have had tribunals, have you referred to this site, or the advice given here like the pip booklet?
and if you did - how did you? I mean what do you say
I don't want them asking something about where I got my ideas/information/support, and then having some sort of advers/weird reaction to what I say
at the moment I am going through the dwp resonse (just a few paragraphs) and clarifying/responding with my view
one point they made was
X stated in her appeal issues not covered by the assessment criteria that can't be considered when deciding eligibility for benefit, including being driven in a car
but surely it should be considered if I have to be driven because I cannot use the public transport/drive myself?
and if it is not relevant, then neither is their mention of the job I last did 8 yrs ago
my head is spinning, I feel sick and dizzy, and on the verge of tears
and I don't know if I will get this done by tomorrow
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7 years 4 months ago #174932 by keeptrying
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also
what do they mean by 'a significant functional problem'?
they state I didn't report one, with going out
but I said I never went to any unfamiliar place alone
and also about my related mh difficulties?
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oh dear I wish I had been well enough to look at this weeks ago
what do they mean by 'a significant functional problem'?
they state I didn't report one, with going out
but I said I never went to any unfamiliar place alone
and also about my related mh difficulties?
confused
oh dear I wish I had been well enough to look at this weeks ago
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7 years 4 months ago #174940 by Gordon
You need to concentrate on matters related to the Descriptors, for example; your driving a car is the result of your problems not the cause and is not entirely supportive of showing that you do have a problem. Also, the Descriptors make no reference to this, in the same way, whilst using Public Transport is mentioned in the DWP guideline it is not referenced in the Descriptors.
As to where you got your information, I would be extremely surprised if you were asked but even if you are all of the information we present in the guides is available in the Public Domain although in lots of places.
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walker wrote: I agree with what you are saying so don't know why they mentioned it as 'local' in their submission
I am still trying to pull stuff together and keep thinking of more to ask you
I am so so sorry for going on so much
when you, or others, have had tribunals, have you referred to this site, or the advice given here like the pip booklet?
and if you did - how did you? I mean what do you say
I don't want them asking something about where I got my ideas/information/support, and then having some sort of advers/weird reaction to what I say
at the moment I am going through the dwp resonse (just a few paragraphs) and clarifying/responding with my view
one point they made was
X stated in her appeal issues not covered by the assessment criteria that can't be considered when deciding eligibility for benefit, including being driven in a car
but surely it should be considered if I have to be driven because I cannot use the public transport/drive myself?
and if it is not relevant, then neither is their mention of the job I last did 8 yrs ago
my head is spinning, I feel sick and dizzy, and on the verge of tears
and I don't know if I will get this done by tomorrow
You need to concentrate on matters related to the Descriptors, for example; your driving a car is the result of your problems not the cause and is not entirely supportive of showing that you do have a problem. Also, the Descriptors make no reference to this, in the same way, whilst using Public Transport is mentioned in the DWP guideline it is not referenced in the Descriptors.
As to where you got your information, I would be extremely surprised if you were asked but even if you are all of the information we present in the guides is available in the Public Domain although in lots of places.
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7 years 4 months ago #174941 by Gordon
A significant functional problems would be the underlying condition that is causing limitations with your completing a PIP activity.
You may have identified one or more of these in your PIP2, the DWP may not agree with you, which they are entitled to do, that doesn't mean the Tribunal will take the same position.
But you do need to be aware of the issues that the DWP believe contribute to a claimant being unable to perform the Going Out activity, see my post on the previous page.
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walker wrote: also
what do they mean by 'a significant functional problem'?
they state I didn't report one, with going out
but I said I never went to any unfamiliar place alone
and also about my related mh difficulties?
confused
oh dear I wish I had been well enough to look at this weeks ago
A significant functional problems would be the underlying condition that is causing limitations with your completing a PIP activity.
You may have identified one or more of these in your PIP2, the DWP may not agree with you, which they are entitled to do, that doesn't mean the Tribunal will take the same position.
But you do need to be aware of the issues that the DWP believe contribute to a claimant being unable to perform the Going Out activity, see my post on the previous page.
Gordon
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