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Claimants vow to topple Coalition

“I am so disheartened, ill and worn down by them, but I will vote if it is with my last breath to get this Coalition out!”
Survey respondent

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Claimants are angry – not cowed - and they are planning to turn out in huge numbers to vote in May.

That’s the message from almost 6,000 readers who responded to the Benefits and Work General Election Survey, conducted over the last fortnight.

A staggering 84% of respondents said their lives had been made worse or much worse by the Coalition. 14% had seen no difference whilst fewer than 2% said it had been made better or much better.

You can read in detail what they had to say about life under the Coalition in “I’m scared” – what the Coalition have done to 84% of sick and disabled claimants.

But it’s what our readers had to say about their voting intentions that should leave politicians in a state of terror.

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No fewer than 85% voted at the 2010 election.

And an extraordinary 93% of respondents plan on voting at the next election, an increase of 8%.

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Although we didn’t ask, many told us who they intend to vote for as well. Below are a selection of the many thousands of responses we received.

I’ll never vote Tory/Lib Dem again
Perhaps politicians and the tabloids sometimes forget that it’s not only Labour voters who get sick, become disabled or lose their jobs. When it happens to a Conservative supporter it can come as a bit of a shock.

“For the first time in my life I do not know who to vote for. After what Ian Duncan Smith put me through I cannot ever vote Tory again, but it is hard making a new choice.”

“Vote this coalition out. I voted conservative for all my life. Never again. I don't trust a word that comes out of their mouths, especially the DWP and Employment ministers.”

“I would prefer the Downing Street cat to get elected rather than the Conservatives, and, I like many voted for them in the last election.”

“Our family would never vote for a tory government ever again!”

“I am in a Tory marginal. They've lost three votes in this household. I am not convinced that Labour - the only likely alternative - are likely to do anything better. The Bedroom Tax does not apply to me but as a result of its impact on disabled people I will not be voting Tory again. Neither will I vote for the Lib Dems who did not have the backbone to stop it. I will be voting tactically in the hope that this Government will fall and take IDS with them.”

And then there are all those people who voted Lib Dem in the expectation that they would pursue left of centre policies . . .

“I feel that my vote last time was not how I wanted it to be. I voted Liberal Democrats to keep conservative from ruining the country, I certainly didn't expect my vote to be added to the conservatives.”

“Lib Dems stole my vote.”

Finally, there are Tory and Lib Dem supporters who initially thought that a coalition might be rather a good idea.

“I had high hopes for the Coalition (I have always voted for one of the Parties in question); however, I won't be voting for either of them in the next election. Massively disappointed.”

“The only good thing to come out of the coalition is that I am now aware of how spineless and what liars both parties are. I will never vote for either of them again.”

I’m voting Labour, reluctantly
We weren’t surprised by the number of respondents who volunteered the information that they would be voting Labour. But what came across very strongly indeed was the almost universal lack of enthusiasm for doing so. Most sick and disabled people expect Labour to be bad, just not as bad as the Conservatives.

“Vote tactically; even if that does mean the Labour Party, whom I do not particularly wish to endorse.”

“Vote Labour. They can be no worse than the coalition.”

“This coalition has been the most heartless and uncaring in living memory. Whether things will massively improve under Ed Miliband is debateable, but at least some of the Labour MPs do care.”

“Have to get these out, Labour might not be much better but sure can't be worse.”

“We have to get the Tories out and at least with Labour it won't be quite as bad.”

“Russell Brand speaks the truth about the corrupt political system which needs destroying and recreating in another form. Not sure it's a good Idea not to vote though ...we could end up with the nightmare scenario of permanent Tory rule...with a heavy heart I will vote Labour.”

“Life under this Gov has been very hard to the poorest section of our people, but be under no illusion, life under Labour won't be a great deal better, but anything better is good.”

“Labour slightly more likely to look after claimants.”

“Vote strategically. Anything which gets the Conservatives out of sole or coalition power. Don't vote Lib Dem they sold out. Labour are far from perfect. But only alternative viable party who stand any chance of beating Tories. Working class and the vulnerable stand a chance if Labour regain power.”

“I'm no fan of Labour's timid approach but since only Labour can beat the Tories and since they are more likely to listen, vote Labour where it will secure a Labour victory and vote for any other progressive party where it will keep the Tory out even if Labour can't win the seat.”

“Because at least Labour have promised to abolish the sickening bedroom tax, whether or not they adhere to this promise is yet to be seen, as we know the politicians don't stick to what they promise.”

“For the past 5 years my wife and I have been at the mercy of a government that has none. So Labour are the only credible party, they are for the common people but still they need to have more working class people as MPs not public school boys.“

“It’s got to be better under Labour they are fairer and have more compassion and will abolish the illegal bedroom tax.”

“Voting is the only way to bring about a much needed change. Hundreds if not thousands will not survive another 5 years of the Tories. Many people I know will be voting UKIP but my strong views are that a UKIP vote is a vote for the Tories. We must vote Labour.”

I’m voting Green with hope
By contrast to Labour voters, those who say they are voting green tend to be much more positive about their choice – even if it runs the risk of splitting the anti-conservative vote and putting the Tories in power.

“I have been a Labour supporter all my life but no longer. If we have a Green candidate in our constituency I will vote Green. If not I suppose it will have to be Labour.”

“Vote green, even if they don't get a majority, they do at least support what labour used to stand for.

“I am voting Green Party if there is a candidate as they are the only party that shows any compassion for a fairer society.

“I will probably feel upset whatever the outcome, but I'd feel more miserable if I didn't even have a say. I think we should all give the Greens a try now.”

“I'm proud to say I'm voting Green, again. Their policies, when people take the time to read them, are very, very good. And they support the little fish in the big ocean - us.”

“Vote for the Greens, if you really don't know who else to vote for... we've tried everyone else. Even Labour now are too right-wing and don't represent the low-paid working class person.”

“At least make a protest vote to give hope for others. Vote green!”

“It matters to vote to make other parties, e.g. Green Party stronger. I will not vote Tory or Labour, both behave disgusting towards disabled people, but will vote for alternative.”

I’m voting SNP/Plaid because they are for claimants
In Scotland, there seems to be a real feeling that the SNP can be trusted to oppose some of the worst attacks on claimants in a way that people no longer trust Labour. The same appears to be true of Plaid.

“I shall vote SNP as I live in Scotland and they do not want the DLA to change to PIP

Labour admit that they will still implement welfare cutbacks so they are useless but preferable to Tories. I will be voting SNP.”

“I intend to vote SNP as they have tried to help by subsidising the bedroom tax and are against austerity cuts. Labour are no longer a socialist party, MPs voted with the Tories for further cuts.”

“Tories are out to crucify you if you have a disability. I'm voting SNP, as a Scot I can testify been stabbed in back for voting to stay in union but gain fictional extra devolution.”

“It matters for me in Scotland to vote SNP as they genuinely oppose the cuts and may hold the balance of power. Voters in the rest of the country may benefit from voting tactically to

get rid of the Tories .”

“I live in wales which biases my choice of which party to vote for. So if i was talking to someone who also lived in wales i would tell them that Plaid Cymru have the most disability friendly policies of all political parties in the UK. I realise that Plaid if they came to power in Wales would not have the capacity to control benefits however they may be able to in future as devolutionary powers increase.”

“I will vote for Plaid Cymru in Wales. I am not concerned with England. I don't think it is worth voting there.”

I’m voting UKIP in spite of the press
In spite of continued negative publicity and the strong indication that some UKIP candidates despise claimants, there is no shortage of sick and disabled claimants willing to give UKIP a try.

“Vote for UKIP- this will blow out the old tired parties that just want to save money by bullying the disabled. UKIP is largely an unknown at the moment, but they will probably leave the disabled alone- at least for a few years.”

“I detest this government and would like to see UKIP have a chance.”

“I will be voting UKIP as I don't believe in David Cameron and I don't feel that being in the EU is helping this country.”

“The only hope is UKIP so we need to vote to get their influence into government, or at least to have a big influence as part of a coalition.”

“Vote ukip. Hoping they will be better than others.”

“To my dismay I have always voted Conservative. In the next election and future elections UKIP will have my vote.”

“Vote UKIP who are the only ones that understand the people’s needs , do not vote for the self-serving 3 main parties or this will just continue to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.”

“I feel that the last Labour government with its Stealth Taxes and general lies have completely lost my support for ever. The Conservative's did not do what they promised - so how can I trust them. It's time for a new party, may be UKIP could do a better job.”

I’m voting for anyone who can keep the Coalition parties out
For many respondents it really is a question of voting for anyone at all, so long as the result is that the Coalition parties are forced from power.

“I am so disheartened, ill and worn down by them, but I will vote if it is with my last breath to get this Coalition out!

“I’m 47 and never voted before having had the feeling my vote didn’t matter but with the way the sick and disabled have been treated by this coalition i will certainly be voting to try and make sure they don’t stay in power

“I don't care who gets in at the next election as long as the conservatives no longer have any power over the running of this country. Nobody could do as bad a job as them, and over the years the considerable damage they have done to this country is horrendous.”

“It matters very much that you make a point of voting. Any fellow claimants must vote to try and keep the Conservatives and Lib Dems out. Things will only get worse if they get in power again. Please take time out to vote!!!”

“I fear for my life and for this country if the Tories are elected again.

“We don't have the power to work miracles, but we do have the power to get the Tories out. It's not that I think any other party will be a magic solution, but we know that things can only get worse with them in power.”

“Life under the coalition ? You haven't got one! Upcoming election? Never before, have I been so interested/petrified of a certain party getting another 5 years and destroying our country even more!”

“We must vote in our thousands, our tens of thousands. It's the only chance we have of getting rid of this cruel and vindictive Coalition.”

It’s my duty to vote
On the subject of whether to vote or not, many respondents stressed their view that if you don’t vote you have no right to complain and that you are letting down all those who fought so hard for the right to vote.

There was also a strong view that if claimants are seen to be active voters then politicians will start to take notice of them.

“I don't know whether voting will do any good. But if I don't use my vote how can I complain about the people who are in power?”

“Generations that came before us fought hard for the right to vote, they were our ancestors, and like them we need to stand up for ourselves, and make our voices heard, or the powerful will find it easier to trample all over us.”

“We have to vote no matter what to show the government how we feel about their behaviour toward pensioners like myself who are disabled and ill. We are not scroungers most of us have worked since aged 15.”

“Benefit claimants should organise politically instead of not voting. Statistically we are among the groups less likely to vote. We have to fight to achieve our aims whether they are fairer benefits or just removing the stigma.”

“Politicians reward the sections of the electorate who vote, that is why older people get more generous giveaways. The young who don't vote are ignored by the government.”

“People have to vote. It is totally ridiculous to say "your vote does not count". Five more years of this shit and how many more people will die for the sake of Ian Duncan Smith and the rich of this country. People have to vote.”

“You can't make a difference if you don't vote. The government already think we are nobodies, don't agree with them, make your voice heard.”

“There are people in the world who would give anything to vote and are prevented from doing so by their own leaders. You should vote even if it's for a smaller party that you don't think can win.”

“‘They’ are not all the same. Different political parties or groups will impact differently on our lives.”

“It is worth voting for two reasons, the first and more obvious and immediate is that if we get the Tories in again things will get very much worse for us - and that's a lot worse than state it will be. Secondly, once politicians see we are able to represent a large and united block of voters they will be much less inclined to undertake the vicious attacks that has been current Con-Dem policies. We could even become somewhat akin to the retired block of voters; untouchable, for the electoral fear of its consequences.”

“I normally vote, but last election i did not because I was so disillusioned. This year I will return to voting Why? Because it is a way to protest against the main parties, to show that I am not happy with their politics.”

“If this coalition has made a negative effect on your life or the life of someone close, you should vote and have your say otherwise stop complaining, its your fault they got in last time. Come on let's show them we will not be pushed around, have your say, use your vote.”

“Because we are a marginal and every vote not cast is a vote for the Conservatives, and we cannot afford for them to win again.”

I’m not voting because . . .
Not everyone who responded said they would vote – a small minority will not do so. For some, it is the perception – in spite of the massive difference in spending plans – that there is no discernible difference between the parties.

Others simply have no belief in party politics as a force for change

Perhaps more worryingly, some respondents either didn’t realise they could have a postal vote, can’t get to a post box even if they had one or have tried to get a postal vote and failed. The need for online voting has never been more urgent.

“Cause l cannot get there. I’m nearly 61 and struggling.

“As I'm disabled can't get to a post box as they closed it. Can't vote on the internet.”

“Do not leave house.”

“Too ill to get to polling station and i have applied for a postal vote 7 times but never received one.

“Not registered, disabled and housebound.”

“It's too hard to get there and I can't make a decision as to who would help me get disability best.

“Mobility problems and disillusioned with politics.”

“I do not trust any of the political parties, none of them represent my interests or that of the class of which I am a part.”

“There will be no change to the disabled.”

“Makes no changes to my life. All parties are going to make life hell on earth for disabled claimants.”

“No party can be described as ‘pro-disabled’.

“Because they are all the same nothing changes.”

“Makes no difference who we vote for nothing will change their ways towards disabled people and benefits.”

“I don't think either Labour or Conservative are for Disabled people.”

“You can't put a cigarette paper between the mainstream political parties.”

“When it comes to welfare policy you can't get a fag paper between either labour or the tories.”

“Because for the first time in my life as a Labour voter, I don't know exactly what they stand for anymore and doubt they will change the welfare bill or represent the working class anymore. Ed Milliband and Clegg and Cameron are all millionaire public school Oxbridge white men so I have lost heart.”

“They are all the same.”

“They are all as bad as each other.”

“The Tory and Labour Parties are as bad as each other, I won't vote UKIP as a protest vote because I'd be afraid that they would win and not be capable of running the country. This will be the very 1st time I haven't voted in 41 years .”

“I live in a safe tory seat, so I don't see the point in voting.”

This was a self-selecting group of people. It represents those who feel most strongly about the issue of voting. It may not be a representative sample of the views of all claimants.

But there are lessons that politicians should, nonetheless, take from this poll.

One is that any assumption that claimants have been beaten into weary despair and will not turn out on May 7th is almost certainly wrong – many feel that their lives depend on voting.

So, if the pollsters have not factored in enough working age claimants views, then there may be some surprises in store.

Another lesson is primarily for Labour.

It is evident that many claimants intend to vote for Labour because they believe that is the only way of preventing the Tories being the largest party. But it is just as clear that most are doing so with enormous reluctance, on the grounds that Labour are marginally the lesser of two evils.

And some just cannot bring themselves to vote for a party that still treats them with such palpable disdain.

If Labour continues to take claimants votes for granted in the mistaken belief that they have nowhere else to go, it could very easily cost them the keys to No 10.

The bizarre reality is that all three major parties choose to ignore the voting potential of millions of working age claimants.

Yet, as we demonstrate once again, this time in graphic detail with dozens of bar charts, claimants’ votes can make a massive difference to the outcome of the general election.

And if our survey is anything to go by, they are going to do just that.


+2 #19 Patricia 2015-02-03 18:30
I am so upset, dare I say That ?

I have been getting full DLA higher rate for over 6 years but after having an assessment by Capita have just had it all taken away, apart from a lower rate Mobility.

I feel that the points test is just a trick by getting you to fall into traps.
My actual application covered everything but I was unwell on my interview day and could not even think I was so stressed.

I am so worried that even if I get it re assessed, It will be no different. My nerves are in shreads !
I know I'm not the only one suffering with this and my heart goes out to eveyone else in my possition or worse.April 8th I wouldn't have had a problem as I will be 65 and it would not have even been an issue.

It is people abusing our system who do not help, but we are all being treated as the same, awful !

I will never vote Conservative again, not that I did the last time, but wonder if any of them are worth my vote ?

How can they keep hitting the vulnerable to pay all of our Countries debts, for God's sake get the banks pay it all, also Tax the rich more and leave ordenary people alone, we have had enough, we can't take any more of their cuts ! especially on the poor.

If you need to claim for anything it now makes you feel worthless, even though you are entitled to the help. We have actually worked and paid our NI and Taxes through all of our working years.

We need a Government that cares about people, after all we pay them, I think they forget that.

There is plenty of money sloshing about at the top, just use it right and stop wasting cash on stupid projects and departments which are a waste of time.

Just my thoughts !
+1 #18 carruthers 2015-02-02 05:56
Quoting Paul Richards:
May I explain that this 'FPTP' system was first set up when really the ONLY choice was between 'LABOUR' and the 'CONSERVATIVE & UNIONIST PARTY' (as they were originally were!).

Just to correct a historical error. The FPTP system pre-dates not only the Labour Party and the period when the Conservatives became the "Conservative and Unionist Party", but it goes back at the very least to the first Reform Act (1832) and, with some alterations, rather further - before the days of the Whigs and the Tories, i.e. before Robert Walpole became the first recognisable PM in the early 1700s. The only Parliamentary electoral system which is older is the local bigwig deciding who was to represent "his" constituency and using whatever means were to hand to put that person into Parliament.
+1 #17 tintack 2015-02-02 01:11
It's highly unlikely that the Tories or Labour will ever agree to introduce PR (there is some support for it in the Labour party, but probably not enough that a Labour government could ever introduce it).

FPTP has ensured the two big parties a duopoly on power for decades. It is also a system which makes it almost impossible for smaller parties to gain a foothold in terms of parliamentary representation, and this thread shows why: most of us here are voting for whichever party has the best chance of beating the Tories in our respective constituencies. In most cases we'll be holding our noses as we do so, since it will mean voting for a party we don't like or trust very much, but FPTP means it's the only thing we can do which has a chance of making a difference. I'd guess most of us would ideally like to vote Green, since they're the party which have the sort of policies we'd like to see, but FPTP means that a vote for the policies we actually support won't get us anywhere.

There is a further toxic side effect of FPTP, and that is that the entire election is effectively decided by floating voters in the marginals, even though they only make up a tiny sliver of the electorate. So voters in most seats are ignored (since the parties know who will win in each seat before a vote has even been cast). And since these floating voters supposedly have the sort of views that the likes of the Daily Mail represents, papers like that have an enormous and completely unjustified degree of influence.

I'd like to see PR introduced. That would give smaller parties a chance, it would produce a House of Commons that reflected how the country voted (which FPTP no longer does), and because everyone's vote would count equally, the parties would have to appeal to as wide a range of voters as possible, instead of just going for floating voters in the marginals. It would reduce the influence of the likes of the Daily Mail too.
+1 #16 Paul Richards 2015-02-01 20:51
Hi Chris,
With all due respect to you (and I completely understand where you are coming from) - the 'Greens' (unless there is an absolute miracle through some fluke of something happening!) do not really have ANY chance of holding 'power' with any of these 'main parties' - let alone getting an 'absolute majority' - mainly and solely because of the 'First past The Post' system that we currently have in Britain. It is really such a shame as they, if 'they' were in power it could be so VERY different and they would actively support the disadvantaged, the sick and the disabled. As I explain below, it is twisted and skewed to help the 2 main parties!
Because of all of this it is undoubtedly CORRUPT and UNFAIR.

May I explain that this 'FPTP' system was first set up when really the ONLY choice was between 'LABOUR' and the 'CONSERVATIVE & UNIONIST PARTY' (as they were originally were!).

I presume that they dropped the 'UNIONIST' part when either -
1) They did not want to be at all associated with the Labour associated 'UNIONS'??

2) They did not want to be associated with the 'Democratic 'UNIONIST' Party' in Northern Ireland ??
In either case - it does not really matter too much.

The FPTP system as I have said before - favours only the 2 main parties of our 'original' political system - then came the SDP (Social Democratic Party) - held by the 'gang of four' - Roy Jenkins, David Owen , Shirley Williams & David Steele (during the mid-seventies).
As I understand it, the 2 main parties did not want to compete with the SDP, so the FPTP system was actively upheld!
The SDP eventually morphed into the Liberal Democrats - (what we now have today, but with more M.P.'s!) - and the FPTP system was STILL very much upheld!
Our political system is not at all twisted to support ANY particular party - I really do not think so!!
-2 #15 Chris 2015-01-31 04:06
I am disabled, chronic sick, unemployed - all nil benefits,
nil state pension facing nil state pension for life.
See why under my petition,
in my WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT section at:

Managed to get the last of a deal and set up a personal website cheaply and show how The Greens could form a majority government on their own in Westminster (needs 326 MPs).

The Greens are pro migrant and pro disabled / working poor / unemployed, more than any other party anywhere near power.
They replace the conditionality of welfare with automatic and universal Citizen Income and are the sole party now offering me any state pension at all, and an automatic Full Citizen State Pension more than any party has ever offered. The Greens turn the waste of £220 billion spent each year on mostly rising costs of admin, to £300 billion poured into the economy from the Citizen Income, generating jobs, saving lives and paying off the national debt, as 75 per cent of all taxes come from stealth taxes and VAT, paid more by poor up to average waged. 97 per cent of benefits bill is to working poor and poor pensioners (bulk those in work til well into 70s). Once Citizen Income nil reason for cruel Jobcentres nicknamed now Sanctions Centres. Enough marginals with double the amount of migrants and of all races unemployment claimants to unseat the sitting MP Tory, Labour or Lib Dems. Us victims of welfare and pension reform can change government May 7 totally. The Greens could win big like SYRIZA. It's up to you. Or else let's sit and starve and freeze some more whilst MPs get an 11 per cent pay rise on our taxes, in or out of work jsut the same.
+3 #14 shimtoan 2015-01-31 02:33
Quoting Paul Richards:
I, for one have had just about enough of the cr*p coming out of the mouth of this 'Eton Boy' educated 'guise politician' - (who, incidentally has probably NEVER, EVER done a decent day of hard work in his life (as the rest of us have!), - not even in his Hard Hat and Yellow Tabard!

As we all should know, the cleaner the hi-viz the less useful the person - and Cameron's hi-viz is always spotless. Make of that what you will
+3 #13 tintack 2015-01-30 21:43
Quoting Paul Richards:
I, for one have had just about enough of the cr*p coming out of the mouth of this 'Eton Boy' educated 'guise politician' - (who, incidentally has probably NEVER, EVER done a decent day of hard work in his life (as the rest of us have!), - not even in his Hard Hat and Yellow Tabard!

A former member of the Bullingdon Club who used to work in PR holding sway over the lives of ordinary people. What could possibly go wrong?

Put the likes of Cameron and Osborne in the real world, without the old school tie networks to rely on, and they wouldn't last five minutes.
+2 #12 Paul Richards 2015-01-30 21:30
Hi all,
Now even the 'Hardship Fund' is expected to be hit!
What a heartless Government we now have!

Please have a look at: www.talktalk.co.uk/news/uk/article/hardship-fund-to-be-cut-by-25/158233/
+1 #11 Paul Richards 2015-01-29 21:39
Hi all,
Bill & tintack - yes, you are definitely right in all that you say.
I live in SW England and had the 'lovely edification' of watching our 'Prime Minister', David Cameron being interviewed by Justin Leigh on BBC TV Spotlight this evening. What a load of electioneering indeed! As usual, this arrogant and forceful man
(for his own rotten Tory party) had loads to say, but with very little 'genuine' substance. (We have Tory & LibDems down here!)
This is the second time in two weeks that this failed Prime Minister has visited the South West of England, - obviously trying to garner support to help him with his re-election!
He was asked about the NHS waiting delays and he said that it is all due to the 'ageing population'! When asked about the 'delays' with regard to the SW Ambulance Service - he said that basically, that was their affair - (i.e. the managerial team) and that Central Government had no say in it whatsoever. Again - stepping this very important question (for the South West!) aside
When asked about 'Dawlish' - there was little of substance - apart from when (it may be remembered!) that with all of the flooding and wind/sea damage - 'then money would be no object'. What a load of bull**it. They have come up with very little money to deal with all of this. I would imagine that anyone who has been flooded out in the South West would have been very well disappointed with his despondent and very dismissive response.
I, for one have had just about enough of the cr*p coming out of the mouth of this 'Eton Boy' educated 'guise politician' - (who, incidentally has probably NEVER, EVER done a decent day of hard work in his life (as the rest of us have!), - not even in his Hard Hat and Yellow Tabard!
I think that I could run the finances of this Country better that him - as ex-Royal Naval forces & an ex-taxi driver - I could not do any worse than he has already done. Vote TORY? - I don't think so!
+4 #10 tintack 2015-01-29 19:59
It's worth taking stock of just how much of a right-wing nirvana the Tories have turned this country into (with the help of Lib Dem treachery).

We have the rapid increase in the number of jobs that are badly paid, insecure, and which offer few employment rights and even less prospect of any meaningful advancement. The rise in the number of zero hours contract jobs (a modern version of one of the worst aspects of Victorian employment practices) continues unrestrained.

The number of people relying on food banks has gone up from just over 40,000 at the last election to nearly a million. The privatisation of the NHS has already started, despite the Tories explicitly promising in their last manifesto that they would not embark on a top-down reorganisation of the NHS. Vast sums of public money continue to be shovelled into the coffers of corporate charlatans for the provision of public services. In most cases these contracts are won by the same corporations who already have a track record of incompetence, dishonesty or both.

The unemployed are sanctioned and plunged into immediate destitution on the flimsiest of pretexts (or for no reason at all). We still have the farcical sham of the WCA. Those at the bottom are scapegoated for the country's economic woes, as the Tories play divide and rule as much as they can (while claiming to be on the side of ordinary people): those in work vs those on benefits, public vs private sector workers, and of course "skivers vs strivers" (or, as the Victorians put it, the deserving vs the undeserving poor). We are ruled by a bunch of wealthy, privileged idiots whose arrogance convinces them that they are born to rule (in centuries past we called this "divine right").

Meanwhile, those who caused the crash are still coining it in.

If they can get away with all this, they'll assume they can get away with anything if they get back in. And they'll probably be right.
+2 #9 Bill 2015-01-29 15:35
Quoting tintac

The working poor certainly should go against them, but the problem is that the Tories and their friends in the press have run a very effective propaganda campaign which has encouraged the working poor to direct their anger at anyone on benefits.
You are so very right tintac, its the Tory Press that has caused the general population to believe in the Tories because in general people believe what they read in a newspaper... though God knows why!

We are the problem for the Country, all us sick and disabled having ''handouts'' from the Welfare Budget and we simply cannot be afforded ..... at least that is their brainwashing clap trap.

Remember that famous Sun headline some years ago that went something like ''It Woz The Sun Wot Won It'' or something like that when they were showing off about the fact that they had singlehandedly installed the Government of their choice!

We need to all remember what tintac has said below, as he is correct.... in my humble opinion.

+5 #8 tintack 2015-01-29 14:21
Quoting Paul Richards:
I have a feeling that also, the 'working poor' may go against them as they have been badly pilloried by Coalition policies, even to the extent of reducing the meagre top-ups via Working Tax Credits.

The working poor certainly should go against them, but the problem is that the Tories and their friends in the press have run a very effective propaganda campaign which has encouraged the working poor to direct their anger at anyone on benefits. They should be directing their anger at a government which is happy to see a huge rise in poorly paid, insecure jobs which offer little or no prospect of career advancement, but instead they've been duped into directing their resentment at the unemployed and the sick and disabled, not those who are responsible for the fact that their job is only paying them a pittance in the first place.
+2 #7 llais 2015-01-29 10:54
+3 #6 Paul Richards 2015-01-28 20:27
Hi all,
As has been said on here already, claimants could, if they come out en masse to vote in the G.E. perhaps tip the balance to kick this rotten Tory/Lib Dem Coalition out of Government and also stop them getting back in. Only then will claimants and the sick and disabled of Britain be 'relatively' safe - make no mistake about this - this is a crucial G.E. for all of these groups especially, (but also for the 'working poor', 0 hr contract people etc too)
I have a feeling that also, the 'working poor' may go against them as they have been badly pilloried by Coalition policies, even to the extent of reducing the meagre top-ups via Working Tax Credits.
Cameron's arrogance and audacity is legendary - I had the chance to watch Prime Minister's Questions on BBC2 today and what a performance it was - Miliband trying to get across what the Government had done to Britain and Cameron, as usual retorting time and again that their policies were working and that there were more people 'in work' than ever before, that they were taking so many 'people out of poverty' - all of the usual cr*p from this mealy mouthed 'Prime Minister'
However, to cap it all, Dennis Skinner ('the Beast of Bolsover') whom I have always very much admired, directly asked Cameron amongst other things, about all of the people going to food banks.
Cameron replied in his usual arrogant way that 'our Government policies are working, the economy is getting better & there are more people in paid work than ever before'
The same old drivel as the needle gets stuck in the groove! The real regret though that I have is why didn't Dennis Skinner also bring up about all of the suicides caused by DWP sanctions? - he didn't and that was a pity.
However, even if he had, Cameron would have either side-stepped the question as usual or said that 'ALL' working age people must do their best to find work to avoid a sanction!
If they do get in again, then God help all of us.
+3 #5 Paul Richards 2015-01-28 19:24
Hi all,
Well said Cyril & Bill,
We have got to keep the Tory Govt/Coalition OUTwww.talktalk.co.uk/news/uk/article/reforms-may-cut-benefits-by-quarter/157964 at the G.E.
If anyone does not believe that they would continue these cruel policies - then please take the time to have a look at this!
+2 #4 Daska 2015-01-28 18:08
If you don't know who to choose from try


And take it from there.

Personally I'm voting Green
+2 #3 Bill 2015-01-28 17:54
As IDS once said ' Never underestimate the determination of a quiet man'.
I would say ' Never underestimate the determination of a Disabled man' (or woman)
Nice one CyRil. :-)
+7 #2 Bill 2015-01-28 16:11
The charts above speak for themselves and now that we have read the information here on this site we know how we stand; we can make our own minds up as to how we should vote.

I know I sound like a broken record but in my humble opinion we must try to vote for a Party that will keep the Tories out, and when everything is taken into account, that Party can only be Labour. As much as that sticks in our throats (some of us at least) it seems to be a fact of life.

Why do a ''protest vote'' if it ends up that the Tories get back in as the major part of a new coalition?

If that happens they will bully their ''partners'' as they have the LibDems and they will continue for another 5 years caning us all with all their might.

Thank the Lord that almost six thousand people who answered this survey said they were prepared to vote this time; me and Mrs Bill just hope that not one single one of them vote Tory!

+6 #1 CyRiL 2015-01-28 11:56
As IDS once said ' Never underestimate the determination of a quiet man'.
I would say ' Never underestimate the determination of a Disabled man' (or woman)

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