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“Big cuts to disability benefits” if conservatives win, warns IFS

screenshot from BBC website with image of chancellorThe Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) is warning that cutting the benefits bill by £12 billion will lead to “radical changes” to housing benefits and “big cuts to disability benefits”, amongst others. They have challenged chancellor George Osborne to explain where the cuts will be made.

Not easy to find
In an interview for the BBC today, Paul Johnston of the IFS pointed out that:

“The chancellor has been saying for nearly two years now that he wants to find £12 billion of welfare cuts by 2017.

“He’s told us maybe where he’ll find £2 billion of that £12 billion. If he really wants us to take seriously the idea that other spending will be protected, he needs to tell us something about where the additional £10 billion of welfare cuts will come from.

“They will not be easy to find.”

Radical changes
Johnston explained that a freeze on working age benefits, which would itself cause increasing hardship for working age claimants, would go nowhere near saving enough cash.

“He has told us he wants to freeze working age benefits. That will save up to about £2 billion. That’s something he has told us. It’s the other £10 billion we know nothing about.

“It’s of course possible to cut benefits by £10 billion or £12 billion, if that’s what you really want to do.

“But you need to recognise especially if you’re protecting pensioners which the conservatives have said they want to do, this will involve radical changes to, for example, the housing benefit system, big cuts to child benefit, big cuts to disability benefits.

“These are the big benefits. If you want to save £10 billion you have to find radical things to do to those big parts of the benefits system.”

For claimants, especially those who are sick and disabled, the result of the next election could well have a dramatic effect on the quality of their lives for decades to come.

You can see the full interview on the BBC website.

Comments  

+1 #14 Julie Davis 2015-04-08 14:28
All you disabled people should vote for any party that is not Conservative or we will rue the day, they've got to save money and who best to hit- disabled and vulnerable people, they haven't thought about the votes they will lose by reducing benefits. Let's hope that people think about what will happen if the Tories get into power and DON'T vote for them, even putting your ballot paper unmarked back into the ballot box counts as a protest vote. Also go onto the UGOV website and sign up for surveys, you can have your say on that too.
#13 tintack 2015-03-25 00:22
Quoting Bill:
If there is to be another coalition so be it, but for all our sakes, not one that involves the Tory Party.

If that is what we end up with, or even worse, a Tory Government, everyone relying on Benefits that did not take the time and trouble to go out and vote against the Conservatives, will deserve everything they get served up to them by these very nasty people.


Another Tory-led government, or even worse, a Tory government with an overall majority, will, in effect, mean the end of the welfare state - the holes cut in the safety net will be so large that vast numbers of people will fall through them. I'm convinced of this. The dire economic problems of the last few years - caused by the very same free-market fundamentalist ideology that the Tories love so much - has given them the excuse they needed to pursue their ideological obsessions in a way that they could otherwise never have got away with. The NHS will almost certainly also be privatised in all but name.
+2 #12 tintack 2015-03-24 02:37
I saw Ken Clarke saying that the government has economic figures "to die for". Sadly it's vulnerable claimants who have died for them.
+2 #11 Bill 2015-03-23 13:37
Regarding the possibility that Labour would cut £12bn from Welfare tintac said:

[quote]It's unlikely Miliband would want to do that, and even if he did, there are enough Labour backbenchers who would be horrified by it that he'd find it very difficult to get it passed. By contrast, the Tories don't just support such cuts, they positively relish them.

You have to be right tintac, because if you are not, what is there left for any of us who rely on Benefits to cling on to?

The Tories do relish cuts to Welfare, whereas the Labour back benchers would never allow it, even if the leadership suggested it, in our opinions.

If there is to be another coalition so be it, but for all our sakes, not one that involves the Tory Party.

If that is what we end up with, or even worse, a Tory Government, everyone relying on Benefits that did not take the time and trouble to go out and vote against the Conservatives, will deserve everything they get served up to them by these very nasty people.

Mr & Mrs Bill
+3 #10 tintack 2015-03-23 11:37
Quoting Jim Allison:
I'm afraid there's no longer a 'bona fide' Labour Party. It lost it's way when Blair first became Prime Minister in 1997. If Labour did manage to form Government ( highly unlikely) do you think it would slow down the current and further plans for welfare reform ?


Labour certainly lost its way under Blair, and they're still nowhere near as near as progressive as I'd like them to be. That said, I don't think a Labour or Labour-led government would cut £12billion from working-age benefits. It's unlikely Miliband would want to do that, and even if he did, there are enough Labour backbenchers who would be horrified by it that he'd find it very difficult to get it passed. By contrast, the Tories don't just support such cuts, they positively relish them.
#9 Jim Allison 2015-03-22 21:54
Quote:


And no, I don't think life will be a bed of roses under Labour. But I don't think Labour would contemplate what the Tories want to do. T.
I'm afraid there's no longer a 'bona fide' Labour Party. It lost it's way when Blair first became Prime Minister in 1997. If Labour did manage to form Government ( highly unlikely) do you think it would slow down the current and further plans for welfare reform ?
+5 #8 tintack 2015-03-20 21:39
The cuts already implemented are producing a steady stream of deaths, but this is nothing compared to the cuts we'll see if the Tories get back in.

It is therefore now clear that a vote for the Tories is a vote for more claimant deaths (to say nothing of the countless others who will be driven into abject poverty and put through hell). It's that simple.

And no, I don't think life will be a bed of roses under Labour. But I don't think Labour would contemplate what the Tories want to do. The only party that probably would go along with it is UKIP, and since they're a bunch of hardline Tories, that's no surprise. Even the treacherous Lib Dems have said they think the scale of the Tories' proposed benefit cuts is far too harsh.
+4 #7 Bill 2015-03-20 19:17
Quoting Drizzle:

Quote:
Please everyone vote against the Tories in your constituencies, even if it means voting for a party you don't believe in, because we're all going to face dire consequences if they gain power again. Voting for a minority party because you hate Labour is going to do nothing to help you. Tell your family and friends too!
Well said Drizzle, we can tell that you are speaking from the heart and we, like you, are terrified too so we are with you all the way.

We are scared that when Bill is tested again we will lose out on Support status and if we do, we simply do not know how we will manage.

We are scared that next year, thanks to the Tories, we are expecting to lose a part of our Housing Benefit, the same as we have already lost part of our Council Tax Benefit, thanks to the Tories.

Where we will find that extra money to pay towards our rent we simply do not know so what will happen with our home, we also simply do not know. We will struggle to pay the Council Tax that we have been newly saddled with this year so God knows what next year will bring.

Stress, stress, stress, how much more do we need?

Well said, once again Drizzle.

Mrs Bill
+4 #6 Drizzle 2015-03-20 15:46
If the Tories or a Tory/UKIP government get in at at the next election I can myself losing my home even if I'm still in the Support Group (which I will be if assessed correctly - but I know that doesn't mean it'll happen).

I'm already subject to the bedroom tax so if my benefits are cut further, I'll be made homeless. As someone who suffers severe mental health problems I really don't think I'll survive that happening (as I wouldn't if I were wrongly assessed next time and hounded into preparing for, or looking for, work).

I know I'm far from being alone in feeling so terrified of the future! :sad:

Please everyone vote against the Tories in your constituencies, even if it means voting for a party you don't believe in, because we're all going to face dire consequences if they gain power again. Voting for a minority party because you hate Labour is going to do nothing to help you. Tell your family and friends too!
+4 #5 tintack 2015-03-20 14:16
Quote:
For claimants, especially those who are sick and disabled, the result of the next election could well have a dramatic effect on the quality of their lives
Or indeed whether or not they're even alive at all.

The way the Tory press has "reported" this budget is shocking, even by their pathetically low standards. A million people relying on food banks to ward off starvation, millions more earning a wage too low to live on, yet according to these "news" papers everything's going swimmingly, almost to the point of saying "you've never had it so good".

Never has there been a more graphic demonstration of the fact that the primary function of these papers is to act as the propaganda ministry of the Tory party rather than report the news.
Frankly, it's high time the papers were obliged to abide by the same requirement of impartiality which applies to the broadcasters. They don't inform the public, they deliberately misinform the public on an industrial scale.

The result is people like the woman on last night's news who stated that most claimants just laze around all day drinking and smoking, and said this as if it were objective, undeniable fact. When asked if anyone deserved their benefits she graciously conceded, "well yeah....a few. But how do you tell who they are?" It didn't seem to occur to her that if you can't tell who deserves their benefits and who doesn't, you can't possibly "know" that most claimants are lazy scroungers who just drink and smoke all day. But this brainwashed fool has the right to vote.

Isn't democracy terrific?
+7 #4 angela 2015-03-20 08:31
I for one dare not even think about this its bad enough now please please god dont let this tory goverment win in may
+6 #3 Bill 2015-03-20 07:46
Quote:
The Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) is warning that cutting the benefits bill by £12 billion will lead to “radical changes” to housing benefits and “big cuts to disability benefits”, amongst others. They have challenged chancellor George Osborne to explain where the cuts will be made.
Please note, all who read this, both here and at the BBC News website, this is the Tories that are making this promise of such Welfare cuts, not any other Party.

We, the sick and disabled, will not be treated the same if other Parties get into power, all Parties are not the same when it comes to the way they would treat people on Benefits.

Please think about that when you vote.... or even worse, when you dont bother to vote!

Bill
+5 #2 tintack 2015-03-20 02:23
Quote:
For claimants, especially those who are sick and disabled, the result of the next election could well have a dramatic effect on the quality of their lives
Or, indeed, whether they're even alive at all. Because it's now crystal clear that a vote for the Tories is a vote for yet more claimant deaths.

The way this budget has been "reported" by the right-wing press is shocking, even by their pathetically low standards. The IFS has confirmed what the Tories have consistently tried to deny, but what we knew to be true, that the poorest and most vulnerable have taken the biggest hammering under this government. And this budget promises to ramp that process way, way up.

But the coverage in the Tory press screams at the public that everything is going swimmingly, almost to the point of "you've never had it so good". Never has there been a more graphic demonstration of the fact that their main function is to act as the propaganda ministry of the Tory party rather than report the news. I think it's time for newspapers to be subjected to the same impartiality requirement that applies to the broadcasters. These papers don't inform the public, they misinform the public on an industrial scale. So you get people like a woman on the news claiming that most people on benefits do nothing but laze around and drink and smoke all day. When asked if anyone deserved benefits, she graciously conceded "well, yeah.....a few." And having been brainwashed, she gets to vote.

Isn't democracy marvellous?
+7 #1 Paul Richards 2015-03-19 23:51
Hi all,
Yep - I am sure so that this is going to be the case - and the electorate should have the final say. But, because of the FPTP system I am not entirely sure of this. I have watched 'Question Time' to it's end
and at the end of it all - the Tory Minister said basically 'We are all in it together' - NO - I don't think so - THEY ARE ALL IN IT FOR THE MONEY THAT THEY CAN FINALLY GET OUT OF THEIR TIME IN POWER!

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