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IDS flees from sister of dead claimant

Iain Duncan Smith dropped out of a hustings in his own constituency at the last minute, frightened of facing the sister of David Clapson, the diabetic former soldier who died after his benefits were cut.

IDS should have appeared on a platform with candidates from six other parties in Chingford, north London on Monday night.

Gill Thompson, the sister of David Clapson, was there to talk about how having his benefits stopped for missing an appointment had led to her brother’s death and to call IDS to account.

But, with just hours to go, IDS was suddenly called to “to the north-west of the country” for unexplained reasons.

According to the Daily Mirror, Thompson moved some in the audience to tears as she explained the circumstances surrounding her brother’s death.

“My brother died because of Iain Duncan Smith’s policies,” she said. “He wasn’t a scrounger. He was a former soldier. He died with a pile of CVs next to his body. He was a diabetic. After he was sanctioned he couldn’t even keep his insulin cold in the fridge.”

Just last week, we asked After Harper no-show on Newsnight, will IDS duck his benefits debate too? This followed DWP minister Mark Harper’s last minute refusal to appear in a Newsnight debate on benefits.

It’s beginning to look more and more likely that the answer to that question will be ‘Yes’.

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+2 #41 tintack 2015-05-08 12:02
Quoting Paul Richards:
Needless to say, Sky is seemingly cock-a-hoop that the Tories may get in again!
However, is it not a strange 'coincidence' that they are now interviewing the 'Conservative' in Oxfordshire & Kay Burley is also over the moon at the news! - it is totally disgraceful.


Sky = Murdoch. As for Kay Burley, I think anyone who watched her performance in the Paxman (non-)debate will have seen where her sympathies lie. She barely even bothered to hide her bias, making snide remarks about Miliband while fawning over Cameron like a horny schoolgirl.

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Please do not forget also (if) SNP do get 58 seats - they will be the 3rd largest party in the Commons - what an admirable opposition to attack any Tories and to help Labour! (And hopefully all of us!!!)
Sadly it was the Tories' tactic of fuelling anti-SNP English nationalist paranoia which hurt Labour. It may very well have greatly increased the chances of the Scots going for independence though, so the Tories may have just won an election by losing the Union.
+1 #40 Jim Allison 2015-05-08 07:02
Quoting Jim Allison:
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Well, if the exit poll is anywhere near right, we're well and truly screwed. Tories very close to an overall majority. It looks like the incessant barrage of propaganda has worked.

God help us all.


The exit poll is based on just 22,000 voters. At the last General Election Just 29.7 million out of the 45.6 million people eligible to vote did so, that's roughly nearly 16 million who chose not to vote, or to spoil their voting papers as a protest vote.

An exit poll of 22,000 is a mere drop in the ocean to the 45+ million eligible to vote. I forecast a 3 party coalition which won't have the Tories in it.
Well, I eat my words, I never expected the Tories to win so many seats. However, it was the gutter press who helped Cameron achieve his dream. God help the sick and the disabled.
+4 #39 tintack 2015-05-08 00:24
By the way, I'd say moving to Scotland is now looking like an increasingly attractive idea to a lot of us!
#38 Paul Richards 2015-05-07 23:59
Hi all,
Sky has just confirmed this (as Jim Allison did also) - the 'Exit Poll' comprises (ONLY) 22000 voters in 141 separate locations - so that does NOT represent all of the remaining voters in the U.K.
#37 Paul Richards 2015-05-07 23:33
Hi all,
Strangely enough - Kay Burley has just mentioned 'Cock-a-Hoop!
Well, that is a surprise also.
Labour - 2 holds in Sunderland at present - let's hope it continues!
tintack - yes indeed - we will have to wait and see, hopefully the 'Exit Polls' are wrong - otherwise we are definitely screwed!
But, do not forget the SNP - OUR real only hope for Labour to support them.
+1 #36 tintack 2015-05-07 23:21
Quoting Jim Allison:
A long night ahead, and anything could happen. I'm off to bed.

Goodnight to all who sit up to hear the results come. I'm recording it on FreeSat :lol:


I hope you have a stiff drink at the ready when you watch it Jim! If the exit poll is right, we have five more years of Cameron, Osborne and IDS, possibly even with an overall majority this time. Murdoch and co must be laughing - this is the result they wanted, and they've managed to dupe enough people to get their own way. Yet again. It's sickening.

Hopefully the exit poll will turn out to be drastically wrong, but if it's not, I'd imagine the SNP will seriously consider pushing for a second independence referendum, especially with the 2016 Holyrood election coming up. I think there's a good chance they'd win it too, and I certainly wouldn't blame the Scots if they voted to break free of the Tories. Unfortunately for those of us in the rest of the UK, the Tories will push through the boundary changes which stitch things up in their favour, and then it will probably be almost impossible to get the bastards out. There certainly won't be any reform of the voting system, even though it's clear that it's badly needed.

There are times when the idea of a revolution seems quite appealing! :sad:
#35 Jim Allison 2015-05-07 22:58
Sunderland South have just declared and Labour won although there was a 7% swing to UKIP who beat Labour, Tories and the Lib Dems who gained less than a 1000 votes.

A long night ahead, and anything could happen. I'm off to bed.

Goodnight to all who sit up to hear the results come. I'm recording it on FreeSat :lol:
#34 Paul Richards 2015-05-07 22:38
Hi tintack,
Yes, I agree - if this exit pool is correct (which hopefully it is not - then, as you say, God help us all). I am watching Sky News at the moment.
Needless to say, Sky is seemingly cock-a-hoop that the Tories may get in again!
However, is it not a strange 'coincidence' that they are now interviewing the 'Conservative' in Oxfordshire & Kay Burley is also over the moon at the news! - it is totally disgraceful.
And this is only the 'Exit Poll' after all - there are not any 'results' as yet.
The 'Exit Poll' shows the Tories at 316 and Lib Dems at 10 - Yeah - 316+10 = A Con/Lib Dem Coalition may be in the offing!
Sky News & the BBC must be jumping around with glee - let alone the terrible 'tabloids'.
One ray of hope is that other 'Exit Polls' show Con/Lab neck still neck & neck.
Please do not rely on this Sky propaganda as the 'final result'.
Please do not forget also (if) SNP do get 58 seats - they will be the 3rd largest party in the Commons - what an admirable opposition to attack any Tories and to help Labour! (And hopefully all of us!!!)
#33 Jim Allison 2015-05-07 22:32
Quote:
Well, if the exit poll is anywhere near right, we're well and truly screwed. Tories very close to an overall majority. It looks like the incessant barrage of propaganda has worked.

God help us all.
The exit poll is based on just 22,000 voters. At the last General Election Just 29.7 million out of the 45.6 million people eligible to vote did so, that's roughly nearly 16 million who chose not to vote, or to spoil their voting papers as a protest vote.

An exit poll of 22,000 is a mere drop in the ocean to the 45+ million eligible to vote. I forecast a 3 party coalition which won't have the Tories in it.
#32 tintack 2015-05-07 22:13
Well, if the exit poll is anywhere near right, we're well and truly screwed. Tories very close to an overall majority. It looks like the incessant barrage of propaganda has worked.

God help us all.
#31 MarkW 2015-05-07 16:06
I will be honest - I am frightened by the idea of another 5 years of the Tories - I am frightened when I see a blue sign outside a house, and feel intimidated by it. The idea someone in our village might vote for them scares me (There is 1 blue sign)!
I find the press so one sided as to be totally unrealistic for the year 2015 - what is going on?
The world I grew up in has gone, changed beyond recognition, and I don't really want to live in the one being created now!
+3 #30 tintack 2015-05-07 14:59
Quoting Paul Richards:
would they even be able to get their 'correct' fact checking on air - would the broadcasters even leave them freely do this?
As I have said before, the Media could win or lose this extremely important General Election by what and how they are reporting.
Up until yesterday, it was pretty clear that there may well have been some 'right-wing' bias by both Sky & the BBC.
When this Election is over, there should, in my personal opinion be an official complaint submitted to the 'broadcast' watchdog.
The tabloid coverage has also been disgusting at times


I suspect with Full Fact it's a case of not getting a hearing, which isn't surprising, though it's still disgusting.

About 80% of the press is rabidly pro-Tory (as we've seen this campaign, when much of the right wing press has been downright hysterical and unhiinged). That means they set the agenda, so the broadcasters follow suit. And the fact that the press is dominated by a small clique of hard right media barons who use their papers as propaganda rags means we certainly don't have a free press. If we had a more balanced press the Tories would be sunk. It's interesting that Axelrod described the Tory press as even more aggressive than Fox News. That shows you how dreadful they are.

It's especially disturbing that the broadcasters have followed the "legitimacy" agenda being whipped up by the Tory press. What they're essentially saying is that if we get a hung parliament with the Tories largest party but unable to put together a government, they should be allowed to rule anyway - yet the rules are quite clear that it would then fall to Miliband to try forming a government. In other words, if they get an outcome they don't like, the rules should be thrown out the window. Unbelievable.

Oh welll, I'll be voting Labour this afternoon. A vote might not seem like much, but it's the only bit of power we have, so let's use it.
+3 #29 Paul Richards 2015-05-07 12:44
Hi Bill (& everyone),
Just as a latest update - we have today received the promised 3 mugs and 4 'stress balls/cards' from Full Fact.
They have stood by their word by sending these and we are grateful. However, we would rather have not had these things in place of having really good 'coverage' by them on all of the Media, especially the TV (Of course though, would they even be able to get their 'correct' fact checking on air - would the broadcasters even leave them freely do this?
As I have said before, the Media could win or lose this extremely important General Election by what and how they are reporting.
Up until yesterday, it was pretty clear that there may well have been some 'right-wing' bias by both Sky & the BBC.
When this Election is over, there should, in my personal opinion be an official complaint submitted to the 'broadcast' watchdog.
The tabloid coverage has also been disgusting at times - just because the 'owners' of these organisations (except the BBC!) are privately owned and predominantly right-wing in nature - in a so called 'democracy' and a so-called 'free press' they should not be allowed to be as totally biased (one way or the other) as they are.
They should be reporting it all truthfully and without favour to anyone.
+1 #28 MarkW 2015-05-06 10:46
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So, Captain Duncan Smith finally emerged from his bunker.

I also thought he got a relatively easy ride today. Neil did push him on the £12billion cuts, but when the Greens' spokesman raised the subject of internal DWP reviews of claimant suicides, IDS did his usual "how dare you" routine. As far as I could tell, he actually denied that any such reviews have taken place - which is odd, because I'm sure I read recently that a Freedom of Information request had revealed that the reviews have indeed happened, but the DWP has no plans to publish the results. Unfortunately Neil didn't know about this, so he wasn't in a position to push IDS further.

The fact that even the woman from UKIP actually came across somewhat better than IDS says it all. When even UKIP are calling for the scrapping of the WCA, you know just how much it's been discredited.
See new article today on this site......

Information Commissioner orders publication of ESA death statistics

Mind, very well delayed!
#27 Bill 2015-05-06 07:13
Quoting Paul Richards:

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One final thing for now - FULLFACT. Still nothing seen as yet on the general media from them


Paul, we totally agree with you, we have been looking out for them and have wondered why we seem to have missed their part in the campaign. Now I know we are not the only ones, I feel the same as you do and wish we had not wasted our time.

Like you, we wont get caught again.

Meanwhile, tomorrow is the day for all of us who rely totally on Welfare Benefits to keep us alive.

You know what you must do.

Good luck everyone. :-|
Bill
#26 tintack 2015-05-06 00:05
So, Captain Duncan Smith finally emerged from his bunker.

I also thought he got a relatively easy ride today. Neil did push him on the £12billion cuts, but when the Greens' spokesman raised the subject of internal DWP reviews of claimant suicides, IDS did his usual "how dare you" routine. As far as I could tell, he actually denied that any such reviews have taken place - which is odd, because I'm sure I read recently that a Freedom of Information request had revealed that the reviews have indeed happened, but the DWP has no plans to publish the results. Unfortunately Neil didn't know about this, so he wasn't in a position to push IDS further.

The fact that even the woman from UKIP actually came across somewhat better than IDS says it all. When even UKIP are calling for the scrapping of the WCA, you know just how much it's been discredited.
+2 #25 Paul Richards 2015-05-05 22:30
Hi all,
Jim - That is very interesting news indeed - we shall wait and see what happens re this after the G. Election.

Re IDS: It is no doubt the true 'measure' of this man that he is so extremely hardened and insensitive that in today's Daily Telegraph ('Torygraph' as tintack so rightly put it!) he wrote an article called 'A Vote For UKIP Is A Suicide Note For Britain' (or wording similar)

After all of the heartache that his orders to his DWP have caused to so many families, - so many unneccesary deaths caused by his policies etc, he should be totally ashamed of the disgraceful wording of this headline.

Even if he leaves office, he should, in my personal opinion be persued to prosecution for culpable manslaughter at the very least.

Why should he be allowed to get away with all of this?
As I have said before, if the general public did any of this - then they would be brought to book to answer for it.

I recorded the 'debate' this afternoon and after seeing it - Andrew Neil seemed to give IDS a relatively 'easy' time compared to the more 'left wing' ones such as Rachel Reeves & the Green Party chap. The UKIP Lady & Lib Dem Steve Webb (who had little to say! - let lone to have a real go at IDS!) seemed to get away little scathed also.

One final thing for now - FULLFACT.
Still nothing seen as yet on the general media from them - I, (and probably many others on here also) wish that they would have had some Media presence on TV - but none as far as I am aware. If I had known that this was going to happen I (& my good wife!) would not have given them any money for their campaign.
We won't get caught like that again!!
+4 #24 Jim Allison 2015-05-04 21:48
If members remember Cameron asked IDS to step down as Sec of State, for Work & Pensions last year but IDS refused. A Prime Minister can appoint or sack any cabinet minister if they so wish.

So why didn't Cameron sack IDS ? The reason was that IDS knew things about Cameron that we don't, but I do, but I cannot reveal it until after the General Election. However, if the Tories won the General Election outright (most unlikely) then IDS will be sacked from his current post. Watch this space. !!
+4 #23 Jim Allison 2015-05-04 21:33
As previously stated, in the unlikely event of the Tories winning a General Election outright ( highly unlikely) IDS will NOT be Sec of State for Work & Pensions. I'm afraid I cannot reveal my source at he present time, but IDS will NOT be be the next Sec of State for Work & Pensions.

I will reveal my sources after the results of the next General Election are announced after 7 May 2015.
+4 #22 jackus 2015-05-04 19:25
I do not think the Tories will get back in, even if they do they will not be a majority and the Lib Dems said NO to £12 Billion welfare cuts. Even if the Tories are the largest party the maths say they won't survive a vote of no confidence :)

But Labour without win either without the SNP. Ed is right to be tough with them but will have to have there backing to pass the queens speech.

The truth will come out then.

But away from the national polls its the marginal seats that matter.

Not long now, they will be out and IDS's propaganda about helping people back to work will be shown for what it is.:)

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