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MPs call for ESA death statistics to be published

A small group of Labour MPS, including leadership candidate Jeremy Corbyn, yesterday lodged an early day motion calling on the government to publish the employment and support allowance (ESA) death statistics.

The statistics detail how many claimants have died within six weeks of, for example, being placed in the work-related activity group of ESA.

The information commissioner has ordered the DWP to release the figures.

In addition, a petition on the change.org website calling for the publication of the figures has received over a quarter of a million signatures.

There are fears that the DWP now plan to release Age Standardised Mortality Rate (ASMR) figures that would not allow a direct comparison of deaths over time.

The early day motion cannot compel the government to do anything, but it does continue to keep the pressure on them.

The full motion reads:

That this House notes that on 30 April 2015 the Information Commission took a decision that the Government must disclose the number of incapacity benefit and employment and support allowance claimants who have died since November 2011 until May 2014 within 35 calendar days; acknowledges the petition signed by over 230,000 members of the public calling for this data to be released; further notes that even though the 35 day deadline has passed this data has not been released; has concerns that the data released may be a standardised figure rather than a full picture; and therefore calls on the Government to ensure the release of this data in full and without further delay.

So far it has been signed by just 5 MPs. You can contact your MP and ask them to sign it using the Write To Them website.

Comments  

#14 Paul Richards 2015-07-30 21:40
Hi tintack,
Again, you have summed it up perfectly!
The 'compassion' of these Tory Millionaires leaves so very much to be desired.
The 'compassion' of 'Labour' is now totally non-existent - so very different to what was intended by Clement Atlee in 1946 when the 'welfare state' was created. He would be turning in his grave now if he knew what was happening to the poor unfortunates in our Country who have so fully fallen foul of IDS and his 'ideas' for HIS 'DWP' - so fully looking after the 'prisoners' and the 'failed asylum seekers' and the possible 'migrants' from here, there and everywhere - and yet, - we cannot look after our own poor, sick and disabled of our 'once great ' Great Britain.
Shame on this horrible and most right-wing Tory shambles of a so-called Government.
+2 #13 tintack 2015-07-25 02:19
Quoting Paul Richards:
Hi tintack,
Superb post - you've hit it in one and I could have not put it better myself!


Thanks Paul. Funnily enough, not long after I posted that I saw a "debate" in parliament in which a minister was asked by some brown-nosing nonentity of a backbencher if he agreed that the government's "long term economic plan" was working. If you watch these debates, the chances are you'll have heard most of those soundbites I referenced within five minutes, and if you can put up with a few minutes more of such drivel you'll have the whole set. It's almost beyond parody.

We've said before that these people have all the compassion of the average android, but given the way they repeat these meaningless phrases ad infinitum, we could surely be forgiven for wondering if they actually are androids. I'm sure that if you mentioned the word compassion to them, the response you'd get would be "does not compute".

By the way - and make sure you're sitting down and buckled in for this, because it will come as a hell of a shock - the minister did indeed agree with the backbencher's claim that the government was doing a marvellous job with the economy. I bet you didn't see that coming!
+2 #12 tintack 2015-07-25 02:07
Quoting Paul Richards:
Yet, this sociopath & psychopathic bast**d, - so very reminiscent of Thatcher's Government, (but oh - so very much worse) has at the moment got away with all of it scot free. WHY -?


He's got away with it because the law is framed in such a way as to ensure that no-one is accountable. We've already seen this: whenever a claimant has died due to a botched WCA, the response of the DWP has always been "don't blame us,we just go on the Atos report". To which Atos reply, "not our fault guv, we just do the reports, the decisions are made by the DWP". This will continue with Maximus unless the law is changed to ensure accountability, which it won't be, not least because if IDS and/or other specific individuals could be held to account, the relatives of those who have already died would kick up one hell of a fuss.

The other reason IDS gets away with it (in addition to the rabid support of his party of course) is that we have a Tory-dominated press and supposedly neutral broadcasters who seem happy to pile in with the likes of Benefits Street. People don't hear about claimants' experiences so they believe the tabloid crap and groupthink takes over.

While I don't care about Godwin's Law, I'm a bit reluctant to use comparisons with Nazi Germany since they're not always appropriate. However, one clear similarity is in the use of propaganda. Ask someone in 1930s Germany if hatred of the Jews was justified and they might struggle to defend it on their own. But if everyone around you appears to believe the propaganda, then you're more likely to believe it, however independent-min ded you might like to think you are. After all, your friends and relatives are decent and sensible people, so if they believe it, it can't be that unreasonable. can it? It's the same now with the anti-claimant propaganda. It gives people "permission" to hold prejudiced views they might otherwise question.
+2 #11 tintack 2015-07-25 01:49
Quoting Paul Richards:
Hi all,
Wonderful to note that Theresa May is calling for an enquiry into 'deaths whilst in police custody' - I bet that in no way she is going to call for any sort of an 'enquiry' into the 'deaths of whilst people are on ESA' after the Information Commissioner has called on the DWP to furnish them with this data!
Is she (I wonder), 'protecting' her friend and fellow co-conspirator Iain Duncan Smith in his ongoing and unrelenting crusade against the poor, the sick and the disabled of Britain?


It's a sobering indication of just how bad things have got when the deaths of those under suspicion of breaking the law are considered more important than the deaths of vulnerable claimants who no-one suspects of having done anything wrong. It seems claimants really are now considered to be worse than criminals.
+1 #10 tazman 2015-07-23 23:11
I think he will be exposed for what he is one day. Unfortunately, not many of us will be around to witness it. A bit like Mr Hitler's victims.
#9 Paul Richards 2015-07-23 21:44
Hi all,
Why the f**k cannot in all consciousness be IDS be brought to book?
He is a 'Government Minister' (so called working for 'us') - but not - because only 26% of the 'British' electorate voted Conservative!
Where is the EU? - Where is the Human Rights Commission?
This 'man', - masquerading as the 'Minister for Works and Pensions' has, through 'his' own orders to 'his' DWP caused the uneccesary deaths of so many unfortunate people.
Yet, this sociopath & psychopathic bast**d, - so very reminiscent of Thatcher's Government, (but oh - so very much worse) has at the moment got away with all of it scot free. WHY -?
+1 #8 Paul Richards 2015-07-23 20:57
Hi all,
Wonderful to note that Theresa May is calling for an enquiry into 'deaths whilst in police custody' - I bet that in no way she is going to call for any sort of an 'enquiry' into the 'deaths of whilst people are on ESA' after the Information Commissioner has called on the DWP to furnish them with this data!
Is she (I wonder), 'protecting' her friend and fellow co-conspirator Iain Duncan Smith in his ongoing and unrelenting crusade against the poor, the sick and the disabled of Britain?
+1 #7 Paul Richards 2015-07-23 20:50
Hi tintack,
You are really spot on with your latest post - I could not have put it better myself!!
+1 #6 Paul Richards 2015-07-23 13:29
Hi tintack,
Superb post - you've hit it in one and I could have not put it better myself!
+4 #5 tintack 2015-07-20 14:17
Quoting tazman:
I live in an area which has always been Labour. We now have a tory mp and the thought of writing a civilised letter to her fills me with rage. During the election I was bombarded with junk from her and I was so tempted to open the door and throw it back at her! She's not likely to take any notice of anyone pushing for these figures to be published is she? She's mates with IDS so what's the point? She will just treat it with the disdain I did with her junk mail won't she?


Sadly, she probably will. If you have a non-Tory MP it may be worth writing to them about this, but if you have a Tory MP the chances are you wouldn't even get a reply. Even if you did, it would just be a bog standard fob off explaining what a marvellous job the government is doing. You know the drill: Osborne and IDS are absolutely right. Because hardworking people......liv ing within our means....... balancing the books.....hardw orking people......... taking tough decisions...... .cleaning up Labour's mess......hardw orking people.......lo ng term economic plan.......maki ng work pay......hardwo rking people.......al l in this together. Oh, and not forgetting hardworking people of course.
+3 #4 Jim Allison 2015-07-17 19:56
The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has been told by the information watchdog that it does not need to release secret reviews it carried out into the deaths of 49 benefit claimants.

Campaigners have expressed frustration and disappointment at the decision, with one MP saying it underlines the need for an independent inquiry into the use of benefit sanctions.

Disability News Service (DNS) has been trying since last autumn to discover what DWP learned from its investigations into deaths linked to the withdrawal or non-payment of disability benefits.

A series of freedom of information requests eventually revealed that DWP had carried out 49 internal peer reviews into benefit-related deaths since February 2012.

See: http://www.thefedonline.org.uk/fed-news/watchdog-backs-dwp-refusal-to-release-49-benefit-deaths-reports?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+welfareweekly+%28Welfare+Weekly%29

Originally reported by John Pring, of Disability News Service
+3 #3 tazman 2015-07-15 23:19
I live in an area which has always been Labour. We now have a tory mp and the thought of writing a civilised letter to her fills me with rage. During the election I was bombarded with junk from her and I was so tempted to open the door and throw it back at her! She's not likely to take any notice of anyone pushing for these figures to be published is she? She's mates with IDS so what's the point? She will just treat it with the disdain I did with her junk mail won't she?
+5 #2 Blackcat 2015-07-15 08:00
Hi

If further proof was needed that freedom of speech discriminates in favour of the articulate, this little exercise is it!! An awful lot of people cannot even manage to fill the forms in on their own. What would a person with Down's Syndrome know about 'Age Standardised MortalityRate' This lot reminds me of the scene in 'Miami Vice' when Elvis the crocodile is threatening the bailiffs coming to repossess Sonny Crocketts Ferrari,'Guys Elvis doesn't understand the paperwork,all he knows is no Ferrari,no rides with the top down' It appears that 'they' are following behind 'Tricky Dicky' Nixon and his crew at Watergate, a 'Limited Hang out'is in operation,own up for some of it,but not all of it. DWP will you stop this now and release the figures so that the clever people have the information to report the true state of affairs,good or bad
+6 #1 tazman 2015-07-14 23:05
How can we be sure that, if/when they eventually give us the figures, they have not been fiddled/faked? Does anyone know anything about transparency guarantees with such things. There must be something, otherwise IDS will just think of a figure and make that his truth. I'm willing to bet they are finding ways to twist, shorten or accidentally on purpose miss a few deaths here and there already.

Tintack, I bow to your excellent knowledge and intelligence, you never let me down!

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