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What do you think Brexit will mean for claimants?

As the UK adjusts to the new reality that we are to leave the EU, what difference will this make to claimants?

The short answer from Benefits and Work is that we have no clear idea at all.

We know that the agreement David Cameron negotiated with the EU in February of this year will no longer take effect. So the emergency brake for in-work benefits for workers from the EU can no longer be put into force, nor will the cuts to child benefit which would have reduced payments where the child lives in another country.

We also know that the shadow secretary for work and pensions, Owen Smith, resigned today following in the footsteps of most of Labour’s front bench.

In addition, sterling is continuing to fall in value, especially against the dollar, which may mean price rises for many basic commodities including fuel.

Aside from that, we are as much in the dark as everyone else.

Will IDS return to the front bench when a new leader of the Conservative party is elected? And if so, will he want his old job back at the DWP?

If shares and sterling continue to plummet will this lead to further inflation, a loss of tax revenue and calls for more cuts to benefits in a new wave of post-referendum austerity?

Or will things calm down very quickly and carry on much the same as they did before last week’s momentous result?

Will they even improve, with politicians deciding that there will be more cash available to spend on claimants once we don't have to pay out for EU membership?

Your guess is very definitely as good as ours, so please do let us know what you think.

Comments  

+3 #47 Bill24chev 2016-07-05 00:04
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if cameron negotiated to put a stop to in work benefits and child benefits for children living in another country in the eu. what I can't understand is if we r no longer in the eu surely the government can do what they like regarding this, I did vote to stay in, and am quite worried about us sick and disabled, especially the loss of access to the european court of human rights.
rapheal
We have not actually left the EU yet .

also the European Court of Human Rights is not part of the EU the UK will still be subject to that Courts decision but if the Human rights act is appealed cases will again have to be heard by the the court if a person is not satisfied withuk courts decisions.
+1 #46 rapheal 2016-07-04 21:39
if cameron negotiated to put a stop to in work benefits and child benefits for children living in another country in the eu. what I can't understand is if we r no longer in the eu surely the government can do what they like regarding this, I did vote to stay in, and am quite worried about us sick and disabled, especially the loss of access to the european court of human rights.
rapheal
+3 #45 craftcrazy 2016-07-03 19:46
Benefits and Work members may be interested to read info on a news website called "The Canary" .
There are some very interesting revelations to be had about the current political situation!
+7 #44 tintack 2016-07-01 01:56
Quoting Derek4:
We need protection from our own government. Can anyone imagine the EU passing laws to allow jobless and disabled people stave to death?


Well yes, but, er, "taking back control". Or something.

Just look at the Tory leadership candidates - Gove, May, Leadsom, Fox, and Crabb. One of these people will be our prime minister in the "sunlit uplands" outside the EU. My god.

All aboard the good ship Brexit everyone, it's full steam ahead to S**t Creek.
+7 #43 Derek4 2016-06-30 22:30
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I wonder if some people here read the title.
I wonder where they have been since May 2010.
A Tory government unfettered by the EU and having got rid of human rights is going to be a disaster for claimants and especially disabled people.
I agree. When you consider that Parliament voted to scrap the WRA component, and Stephan Crabb (I have to take great care to spell his name correctly) didn't even realize at the time that ESA was for disabled people, the thought of the UK MP's making their own law is terrifying.

We need protection from our own government. Can anyone imagine the EU passing laws to allow jobless and disabled people stave to death?
+4 #42 Porthole Pete 2016-06-30 19:39
Wouldn't it be wonderful if Gez was forced to step down and he took all his supporters with him and formed a new party. Can't think of a name he could call the party but that wouldn't matter would it, the name? It would be the substance that mattered. Let the snakes keep the name Labour cos the party finished now anyway! Oh I just woke up I was living in cloud cuckoo land there for a minute ha!
+5 #41 dribble 2016-06-30 17:45
Quoting Tcake:
Well it looks like it is going to be either Theresa May or Michael Gove to become the next PM. Which, if any, do you think would be better for us?


I believe Theresa May is the better option. She is more centered and measured and less likely to be swayed.
As for Michael Gove, he didn't even want to be PM a few weeks ago.

I just hope this settles matters and we can move forward. 8)
+6 #40 craftcrazy 2016-06-30 17:36
Robert Peston, once political correspondent for BBC now working for ITV says 13,000 people have signed up to Labour last week and 60% gave their reason as "to support Jeremy Corbyn"
+7 #39 Tcake 2016-06-30 17:33
Quoting Paul:
If Angela Eagle becomes the next leader of the Labour Party, then I will quit being a member of such party, because she is in the pockets with the rich & powerful anyway. The only one who cares is Jeremy Corbyn, and they are putting on him such a unpleasant psychological pressure to quit that it is unbelievable (it reminds me they way it was in my former communist country - suppression of peoples' democracy). I will support Jeremy Corbyn, if only just for his perseverance and not quitting because those dictators want him to go for their personal benefits while not caring for us the poor & disabled.


I like Jeremy Corbyn too and have always voted for Labour. I hate seeing how he is being treated right now - it is like watch real life bullying going on and not many seem to be stepping in to help him :sad:
+4 #38 craftcrazy 2016-06-30 17:20
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0 #33 francis1969 2016-06-30 16:17
Having read here, as well as other places, of the number of people joining Labour in order to be able to vote for JC, we did this last year, under the £3.00 invite.

Can anybody confirm, whether this will be the same this time around to enable votes for JC, or is it only fee paying members that will be granted this vote?

There is also the potential to join Labour party via membership and once vote cast, then could cancel membership, but rather do by means of one off payment of £3.00 to enable voting.

MT's for any clarification.
You can still sign up as a Labour supporter for a one off payment of £3, just google Labour supporter £3 and you will be on the right page. It will mean that you can vote if there is a leadership election.
+6 #37 Paul 2016-06-30 16:48
If Angela Eagle becomes the next leader of the Labour Party, then I will quit being a member of such party, because she is in the pockets with the rich & powerful anyway. The only one who cares is Jeremy Corbyn, and they are putting on him such an unpleasant psychological pressure to quit that it is unbelievable (it reminds me the way it was in my former communist country - suppression of peoples' democracy). I will support Jeremy Corbyn, if only just for his perseverance and not quitting because those dictators want him to go for their personal benefit while not caring for us the poor & disabled.
+5 #36 Asbo 2016-06-30 16:37
Quoting Tcake:
Well it looks like it is going to be either Theresa May or Michael Gove to become the next PM. Which, if any, do you think would be better for us?


I think it's a Hobson's Choice TCake. But if you look at the mess Gove made of Education I wouldn't trust him a jot.
+7 #35 Paul 2016-06-30 16:37
Quoting Tcake:
Well it looks like it is going to be either Theresa May or Michael Gove to become the next PM. Which, if any, do you think would be better for us?

None of the PMs from the Conservatives will be better for us. They are all for the further supression of the poor and disabled. Don't you people understand that? We are screwed either way, and it is our fault for not supporting Jeremy Corbyn enough!
+6 #34 Paul 2016-06-30 16:35
Quoting Porthole Pete:
Please can I say we must not fall into the same trap as the remainers v leavers! I have seen despicable behaviour on both sides of the divide out there and hope we can all continue to support each other here as we have very little support anywhere else. We only have each other!

Yes, I agree with this. It really doesn't matter now if we were/are for Bremain or Brexit. We need to stay united in our effort to prevent the next Government to apply more cuts to our benefits. The Conservatives will never stand for us. The Labours are in the pockets with the Conservatives. The only one who might save us is Jeremy Corbyn. But they really push him to go. It is really sad. They see him as a Marxist/Communi st, but he is not. He has a good heart and wants good for people. I was born in a communist country myself and I defected it in 1987, and believe me, the regime there was similar to what the Conservatives have been doing to us in the past 6 years. And the "Moderate" Labours before them have not helped much either. I say, once again, become a £1.96 per Month Labour Party Member and vote for Jeremy Corbyn to be the Labour Party Leader again. Otherwise, we will be screwed.
+6 #33 francis1969 2016-06-30 16:17
Having read here, as well as other places, of the number of people joining Labour in order to be able to vote for JC, we did this last year, under the £3.00 invite.

Can anybody confirm, whether this will be the same this time around to enable votes for JC, or is it only fee paying members that will be granted this vote?

There is also the potential to join Labour party via membership and once vote cast, then could cancel membership, but rather do by means of one off payment of £3.00 to enable voting.

MT's for any clarification.
+2 #32 Tcake 2016-06-30 15:29
Well it looks like it is going to be either Theresa May or Michael Gove to become the next PM. Which, if any, do you think would be better for us?
+4 #31 Porthole Pete 2016-06-30 10:18
Please can I say we must not fall into the same trap as the remainers v leavers! I have seen despicable behaviour on both sides of the divide out there and hope we can all continue to support each other here as we have very little support anywhere else. We only have each other!
+4 #30 Paul 2016-06-29 22:33
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36668618/jeremy-corbyn-can-still-be-prime-minister
+9 #29 Paul 2016-06-29 22:24
Here you may verify the lies the "Vote Leave" campaign used to make the people vote for leaving the EU:

Reality Check: Have Leave campaigners changed their tune?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36641390

I don't want a new Prime Minister to be selected from anybody involved in such a campaign! The main one was Boris Johnson, who has a strong chances to become a PM. Why is Her Majesty Government constantly lying to us? That is not the democracy. This is the totalitarian regime.

I want Jeremy Corbin to lead the country from now on!
+8 #28 Paul 2016-06-29 16:51
Quoting craftcrazy:
The Labour party has decided to ignore their members and unions support of Jeremy Corbyn's leadership. He was voted in only 9 months ago by an overwhelming majority ,filling up halls and community centres with people wanting to hear his message of hope for the underdog in society.
Jeremy fights for our cause, for the disabled and poorest in society .He advocates a new kind of politics because the present lot of Labour MPs are only paying lip service to us and no one has any trust in them anymore.
After Brexit we need someone like Jeremy more than ever to fight our corner and despite what the media report he has massive support with thousands of people signing online petitions like 38 degrees and care2 to keep him in his democratically appointed position as leader.
Our only hope in politics now is to support Jeremy Corbyn . MPs who are in it only for themselves have been behaving more like Tories for a very long time now just to get votes. They are terrified of Jeremy's popularity with the members because they know he is the only genuine possibility for change that they don't want.

I definitely agree. Jeremy Corbin is our only hope. I joined the Labour Party yesterday, that way I will be able to vote for him. The party will now have the vote trying to replace him. The only way to save him as a Labour Party Leader, is for the most party members to vote for him. For us disabled, the membership is £1.96 per month to be members of the Labour Party. Please people, if you want to save ourselves, do join the Labour Party like I did yesterday and give our Jeremy Corbin a vote to be re-elected as a Party Leader. He will then lead the Opposition and will be able to oppose the cuts, even if the party does not win in the next general elections. The reason why they want to get rid of him is exactly because the Conservatives and those Far-Right Labours know he will stand up for us - not allowing them to apply additional cuts.

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