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PIP and ESA cuts are a massive failure, says OBR

The government’s attempts to cut disability benefits spending by 20% with the introduction of personal independence payment (PIP) have been a dramatic failure, the Office for Budget responsibility’s Welfare trends report released today has found. Employment and support allowance cuts have also fallen far short of their targets.

The OBR estimates that the introduction of PIP reduced spending by just £0.1 billion in 2015-16 rather than the £1.4 billion that the planned 20% cut in spending would have achieved.

In part this is because the forced transfer of claimants from DLA to PIP is so far behind schedule. But the OBR estimates that even when completed, the change from DLA to PIP will result in only a 5% reduction in spending, rather than 20%.

The time limiting of contributory ESA for the work-related activity group was expected by the coalition to save £2.0 billion in 2015-16. In fact, it saved just £0.2 billion as the affected group was much smaller than anticipated.

The full OBR report can be downloaded from this link.

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#10 MarkW 2016-10-26 12:22
Thank you very much for all the helpful comments.
At least I am clearer on what I am likely to face when the letter does eventually arrive!
Mark
PS wonderful people on here who understand, and care........
+2 #9 thedragon 2016-10-23 12:03
MarkW
I make all the telephone calls and deal with all correspondence fpr my daughter as she is unable to. The procedure is simple. Your wife can ring and tell them that she will be your 'Appointee'. They make a visit to your home and the both of you need to be there as to ensure it is really what you want.
+2 #8 Banzai 2016-10-22 16:03
Old DLA forms

The PIP/telephone call guy asked about my last DLA form and if I had it: similar reasons given about them having possibly destroyed it. I have found it but the advice worker that filled in my PIP form says its irrelevant. I have found it but not sure whether to enclose it or not and whether it could be used against you in some way.
My health is largely similar to what it was at time of filling last DLA form which was an Indefinite award for Lower Rate Mobility with no Care component (I was close to getting Care but did not need it on enough days.
Cheers Banzai777
+2 #7 Jim Allison 2016-10-21 22:10
My wife's form, 40 pages long arrived by post, no phone contact at all.I'm a qualified Welfare Rights Officer & former DLA Tribunal Member but it took me two days to complete the pack. I requested a copy of her old DLA claim pack, but informed it's been destroyed securely under the Data Protection Act !998.I advise claimants to use Royal Mail 'signed for' only cost less than £1.55 as the envelope has second class envelope which was discounted off the 'signed for'

Also, went to 3 local hospitals to extract any relevant reports of tests, & Consultants reports. Need to use a SAR for each hospital. Pulled relevant documents @ 5p a copy. Also used Steve's superb guides plus Welfare Reform Acts 2012 & 2016. (Google)

I also put myself down as a professional who knows the most about my wife's condition.Read 2012 version PIP legislation Part 4 especially sections 77 to 81.

Posted 4 October, 2 days before last day for sending claim. Received reply confirming receipt on 9 October. Also that if a 'face to face' assessment is required, will be at our home.

Hope this is of help.

Jim ( former moderator for around 8 years)
+1 #6 MarkW 2016-10-21 11:55
Quoting JOANNE HOBSON:
MarkW
The initial telephone call for a PIP application is to register your application and to request the appropriate forms they will send you. It is also to gather the basic information ie name, address, GP name and address, contact numbers, bank account details, National Insurance Numbers. Previously all this info was gathered by paper.
When I rang them in July this year they did not ask anything invasive regarding my condition. All this was asked in the forms sent to me.
So this call is a crucial part of the process and not sure how you would get round it.
Hope this will alleviate your worries.


Thank You :-)

They will have all that information anyway....,alwa ys having to repeat oneself at every step. Anyway, my wife can give them all that so no problem. At least it's not symptom oriented!
+2 #5 JOANNE HOBSON 2016-10-20 18:54
MarkW
The initial telephone call for a PIP application is to register your application and to request the appropriate forms they will send you. It is also to gather the basic information ie name, address, GP name and address, contact numbers, bank account details, National Insurance Numbers. Previously all this info was gathered by paper.
When I rang them in July this year they did not ask anything invasive regarding my condition. All this was asked in the forms sent to me.
So this call is a crucial part of the process and not sure how you would get round it.
Hope this will alleviate your worries.
+1 #4 MarkW 2016-10-20 09:14
I just gathered from a Twitter comment, that PIP starts with a telephone interview.
I don't deal with people on the phone, I leave it to ring, and leave that side of life to my wife.
So how important is this call, and how will we get round it?
Any help much appreciated.... .....Please!
+4 #3 PJday 2016-10-13 20:36
IDS was a junior army officer - never got a university degree - and treated seriously ill people like they were malingering soldiers!
+4 #2 MarkW 2016-10-12 23:07
Great savings, NOT!
All for the suffering, stress, anxiety and deaths of so many people.
My daughter walked past IDS in the street the other day and said something unprintable -,I hope he heard!
+7 #1 Tommo 2016-10-12 01:09
Only one person to blame and that's IDS............ ..... And he's done a runner..!!!

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