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TOPIC: Pip mobility, going out

Pip mobility, going out 3 weeks 2 days ago #194574

Hi, no, I was enquiring as to the difference before re the descriptors just in case, as I wasn't sure which would apply, due to the date etc but having now received the report, it clearly shows assessment under the 'older' descriptors. So, sorry to ask this again.. I do get what you are saying re: d) and f) being issues of only sensory or cognitive failure now and not depression, panic attacks etc. I am just asking if this applied to the 'older' descriptors too? If not, then can i ask what exactly was the change i.e. why the change in terminology and why are so many people affected? Thanks again and sorry if i am being 'thick' here

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Pip mobility, going out 3 weeks 2 days ago #194577

Jb

What was the date of the Decision?

If you were assessed on the old Descriptors then it is possible to argue that you are unable to follow a route due to mental health issues.

But, this is still an issue of navigation so you would need to show that you would become so distressed that you would be unable to do this.

Also, you must be able to leave the house, you cannot be considered as having problems with following a route if you can't go out in the first place.

Gordon

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Pip mobility, going out 3 weeks 1 day ago #194580

Thankyou. Yes, that is the problem, knowing which to argue for. I put on the form that a family friend takes me to hosp appt's or i get a cab and otherwise I avoid going out at all costs. Lately, however, ive just cancelled everything as I'm going through terrible bereavement, which with the passing months has not got any better (funny how people seem to think you should be over it in a couple of months..) only way i can even try to deal with it in the smallest of ways is to stay in, in a darkened room, trying to shut everything out. I havent even been able to get out to pick up my latest prescription from the psychiatrist as they would not send it to me.

I didn't want to lie, as it were, and say I 'never' went out (im not sure how anyone can say that if completely alone?) as I do stay housebound for weeks not seeing anyone, sometimes months but then I'm 'forced' to go out for electric when its gone dark, as I have no one to help. This is once every few months. Even then, I have panic attacks and try to get back as quick as possible before anyone sees me. The dwp said in their report said that they cant take taxis into consideration re going to appts and i think the fact i said a family friend drove me, went against me.

In reality, i dont even see him now regularly (he tries to help but says im always negative and no wonder with all the bereavements and terrible things that have happened to me in the past year). When i asked for his help on which descriptor to argue for, that applied to me, he took a glance and simply said 'all of them'.

He couldn't help identify which particular one, even after I tried to give your explanations of each descriptor, following, planning a route etc and he's a highly intelligent ex-teacher! I know you cannot make the decision for me but do you think on the basis of what I have said, there is any point then, in trying to argue for e) cannot undertake any journey? I maybe made a mistake in my application thinking never means never, rather than the majority of the time.

When Im at home desperate, crying my eyes out everyday, I believe I should but on the other hand, I'm in such a state, I think I can't cope with any more and should just ring them to cancel the mandatory reconsideration before submitting further evidence, so not to risk the existing award.. I am not due to see the psychiatrist again until shortly before the deadline, so I'm not sure I can get any 'extra' evidence, apart from clarification of my own account to send in, in time now anyhow.

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Pip mobility, going out 3 weeks 1 day ago #194594

Jb

Although Descriptor (e) uses the word "cannot" you can argue that this does not mean "never" when the issues of reliability are taken into account. I think that the standard you will need to show that you meet is far higher than the normal "majority of days" but you post suggests that you should be able to meet this where you talk about staying in your house for weeks and only going out when forced to by circumstances.

Gordon

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