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6 years 7 months ago #196257 by Augustus
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I currently receive higher rate PIP mobility and my ESA is coming up for re-assessment. I have started to read your ESA guide, and have seen your warning about mobility distances.
I mean the 50m ESA option versus a lower 20m PIP one.
In practice, even if you do not tick a box on the ESA50 and explain that you cannot walk more than 20m, won't an ESA assessor, if they accept the lower limit, just tick the 50m box and assess you as being able up to 50m?
And then, is it possible that that might trigger a PIP review - if DWP has one measure on one claim and another on the other?
So this is really a question as to what happens in practice, even if we follow your advice and keep the distances consistent our end.
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I mean the 50m ESA option versus a lower 20m PIP one.
In practice, even if you do not tick a box on the ESA50 and explain that you cannot walk more than 20m, won't an ESA assessor, if they accept the lower limit, just tick the 50m box and assess you as being able up to 50m?
And then, is it possible that that might trigger a PIP review - if DWP has one measure on one claim and another on the other?
So this is really a question as to what happens in practice, even if we follow your advice and keep the distances consistent our end.
Thank you
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6 years 7 months ago #196287 by Gordon
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Replied by Gordon on topic Mobility - As Seen by ESA & PIP Guidelines
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The first thing to make sure that you are aware of is that ESA is not a walking test, it is a Mobility test! In addition to your walking it considers your ability to self-propel a manual wheelchair over the same distances, you do not need to be using a wheelchair or even to own one for it to be considered. SO even if you can show your walking is restricted, unless you can also show that you cannot self-propel the wheelchair you will still not score points.
As to any knock on to a PIP claim, providing you have shown that your walking distance is no more than 20m then I would not expect there to be any impact even if the assessor simply agrees that you cannot walk the 50m that ESA requires. This is more about providing consistent information than having to be assessed to the same degree, in fact you could fail the ESA test due to the wheelchair requirement and it may still have no effect on any PIP award.
Gordon
The first thing to make sure that you are aware of is that ESA is not a walking test, it is a Mobility test! In addition to your walking it considers your ability to self-propel a manual wheelchair over the same distances, you do not need to be using a wheelchair or even to own one for it to be considered. SO even if you can show your walking is restricted, unless you can also show that you cannot self-propel the wheelchair you will still not score points.
As to any knock on to a PIP claim, providing you have shown that your walking distance is no more than 20m then I would not expect there to be any impact even if the assessor simply agrees that you cannot walk the 50m that ESA requires. This is more about providing consistent information than having to be assessed to the same degree, in fact you could fail the ESA test due to the wheelchair requirement and it may still have no effect on any PIP award.
Gordon
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