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6 years 5 months ago #199085 by ISTANBUL VET
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From memory,on the DLA form there was a question regarding the use of alcohol or self-medication which does not feature on the PIP form.
Now,I know that this information can be added in your answers,but how relevant is it now to list it as part of your problems?

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6 years 5 months ago #199092 by Gordon
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ISTANBUL VET wrote: From memory,on the DLA form there was a question regarding the use of alcohol or self-medication which does not feature on the PIP form.
Now,I know that this information can be added in your answers,but how relevant is it now to list it as part of your problems?


I'm not aware of a question about alcohol dependency or self-medication on the DLA form :)

As to the PIP form, you need to mention these problems wherever they impact on your ability to reliably complete each of the PIP activities on the majority of days.

Gordon

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6 years 5 months ago #199102 by ISTANBUL VET
Replied by ISTANBUL VET on topic PIP....Alcohol
I think this is very important.
On the DLA form the section was Drugs,Alcohol or Other Substances.
This has been omitted from the PIP form.
Is the reason because alcohol or drug abuse is not seen as a problem?
A lot of people with mental health problems will self-medicate.

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6 years 5 months ago #199104 by Gordon
Replied by Gordon on topic PIP....Alcohol
ISTANBUL VET

I'm look at the last available DLA Adult claim form and there is no such section, but it doesn't really matter as this is a PIP claim.

DLA and PIP have fundamentally different criteria, DLA looked at your care needs, PIP looks at the severity of your problems.

PIP does consider alcohol and dug abuse but only where it impacts on your ability to complete the PIP activities. DLA also considered a claimants general need for care, PIP does not.

You must be able to complete the PIP activities reliably and on the majority of days not to score points. These terms are explained in our PIP Claim guide.

You may be able to argue that those assessing you should consider the risk of harm from your conditions rather than any actual harm, but this must still be linked to the PIP activities.

Gordon

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6 years 5 months ago #199115 by ISTANBUL VET
Replied by ISTANBUL VET on topic PIP....Alcohol
Thanks.
On the last DLA form it stated...
Is there anything else you want to tell us.
Is there a danger that you might overdose either accidentally or deliberately.Do you self medicate by taking extra drugs or drugs that have not been prescribed for you.Do you mix your medication with alcohol or drugs in a way that may be harmful.
.......I wonder what came first..the chicken or the egg?We know that a lot of right wing groups have been outraged by the payment of DLA to alcoholics,even though I know it is a disease.
I am not an alcoholic though I am a regular drinker which at the time brings relief from anxiety,depression or social situations.
The Equality Act 2010 (Disability) Regulations 2010 (SI 2010/2128) specifically provide that addiction to alcohol, nicotine or any other substance (except where the addiction originally resulted from the administration of medically prescribed drugs) is to be treated as not amounting to an impairment for the purposes of the Equality Act 2010. Alcohol addiction is not, therefore, covered by the Act.

However, an employee may have a physical or mental impairment that does amount to a disability within the meaning of the Act but which was caused by or was the result of alcohol addiction, for example a serious liver condition or a depressive illness. The employee would in this case be disabled, notwithstanding that the disability was caused to a large extent by the alcohol addiction. The cause of the disability is not relevant. Conversely, the alcohol addiction could be a symptom or side effect of some other medical condition from which the employee is suffering, which itself amounts to a disability.

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