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6 years 6 months ago #199275 by garcia
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Hi on p50 of the PIP guide (April 2017, v26), with regards to the descriptor "Mixing with other people" it says:

"An upper tribunal judge has ruled that ‘isolated and specific’ examples of being able to interact with other people, such as being able to talk to the health professional at medical assessment or to staff in a local shop you go to regularly are not enough to prevent you scoring points. In this case the claimant went to the pub and a chip shop every day, but said she avoided any engagement with other people and would move away if anyone stood next to her. She was able to respond to the PIP heath professional’s questions without prompting and had adequate eye contact and rapport.
The judge held that simply going to the pub and the chip shop or responding to questions from a health professional was not evidence that the claimant engaged socially with other people or would be able to engage with people she did not know well."


I would like to quote this decision in my mandatory reconsideration letter as I was awarded 0 points for this descriptor seemingly on the basis that I "coped well at assessment with adequate rapport and eye contact and did not require prompting". Is there a reference number for this tribunal decision that I can quote? Many thanks!

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6 years 6 months ago #199279 by Gordon
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Garcia

There are now a number of UTT Decisions in this are that may be of help, have a look at the following which also includes links to the actual Decisions.

pipinfo.net/activities/engaging-with-other-people-face-to-face

I have to warn you not to get your hopes up at the MR stage, Decision Makers work within very specific guidelines and do not have the discretion to apply a UTT Decision unless it has been authorised by the DWP in the first place, as far as I can see there have been no new guidance issued for this activity.

You will likely have better success at a Tribunal, but read the actual Decisions they are rarely as black or white as their short descriptions imply.

Gordon

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