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6 years 2 months ago #206889 by Gordon
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Kylie
Based on your post, you comments and the assessors I think you would meet (b).
My reasons are that I see no reference to problems with following a route, in fact the words "follow" or "navigate" do not appear. So I exclude (d) and(f). In addition the assessor does use the word "undertake" which specifically relates to (b) and (e).
As you can leave the house, albeit with another person, I don't think you can meet (e) which requires you to be unable to leave the house.
There is no mention of issues related to reliability or the majority of days.
Gordon
Based on your post, you comments and the assessors I think you would meet (b).
My reasons are that I see no reference to problems with following a route, in fact the words "follow" or "navigate" do not appear. So I exclude (d) and(f). In addition the assessor does use the word "undertake" which specifically relates to (b) and (e).
As you can leave the house, albeit with another person, I don't think you can meet (e) which requires you to be unable to leave the house.
There is no mention of issues related to reliability or the majority of days.
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6 years 2 months ago #206913 by kylie021088
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I'm in complete shock.
So because a few words were missing from my evidence, even though the meaning is the same, it's unlikely I'd get awarded anymore points. That's crazy surely.
how often doesn't factor into this as it's stated I never go out alone.
Reliably isn't relevant to the question or appropriate to my answers.
I guess that's that then.
How 220.000 people will get higher rates etc is beyond me then.
So because a few words were missing from my evidence, even though the meaning is the same, it's unlikely I'd get awarded anymore points. That's crazy surely.
how often doesn't factor into this as it's stated I never go out alone.
Reliably isn't relevant to the question or appropriate to my answers.
I guess that's that then.
How 220.000 people will get higher rates etc is beyond me then.
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6 years 1 month ago #206959 by Gordon
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Kylie
I would make two points.
First, my comments are based solely on your post which I have taken as is, ultimately I have no idea whether you meet the criteria for a higher award or not, maybe you don't and maybe you have just not explained your problems very well.
Secondly, and following on from the above, my impression is that you don't understand the criteria against which you are being assessed and you really need to deal with this if you are to have any chance of scoring higher.
Gordon
I would make two points.
First, my comments are based solely on your post which I have taken as is, ultimately I have no idea whether you meet the criteria for a higher award or not, maybe you don't and maybe you have just not explained your problems very well.
Secondly, and following on from the above, my impression is that you don't understand the criteria against which you are being assessed and you really need to deal with this if you are to have any chance of scoring higher.
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6 years 1 month ago #206971 by kylie021088
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Gordon
Could you possibly explain criteria.
I do have severe dyslexia so I can easily get things wrong.
So I may not be eligible and have it completely wrong or as you said I may just not be explaining myself correctly.
Citizens advice filled out all my forms and he sent off a MR regarding the mobility component as he believed I should have scored enhanced.
He thought I should have go more points for moving around but I wasn't too sure. Again I don't think I understand that fully. As for long distances or places i cant frequently rest I use a mobility scooter.
But for going out he thought I should have scored 12 points.
This was back in May 2016 when the descriptors hadn't changed but the guidance was still not to score people with psychological distress more than 4 points unless they had cognitive or intellectual impairments.
Sorry I keep waffling on. I can't rest until I know what's right. Either I'm not entitled or I'm not understanding how I need to explain myself.
Could you possibly explain criteria.
I do have severe dyslexia so I can easily get things wrong.
So I may not be eligible and have it completely wrong or as you said I may just not be explaining myself correctly.
Citizens advice filled out all my forms and he sent off a MR regarding the mobility component as he believed I should have scored enhanced.
He thought I should have go more points for moving around but I wasn't too sure. Again I don't think I understand that fully. As for long distances or places i cant frequently rest I use a mobility scooter.
But for going out he thought I should have scored 12 points.
This was back in May 2016 when the descriptors hadn't changed but the guidance was still not to score people with psychological distress more than 4 points unless they had cognitive or intellectual impairments.
Sorry I keep waffling on. I can't rest until I know what's right. Either I'm not entitled or I'm not understanding how I need to explain myself.
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6 years 1 month ago #206998 by Gordon
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Kylie
I can't say whether you meet the criteria for an Enhanced award or not, not without knowing you personally.
The criteria are actually quite simple and break down into two wholly separate requirements.
Can you undertake a journey, this means can you go past your front door, there are two options; you can with prompting, this means with another person, or you cannot leave the house.
If yo can leave the house can you follow or to be more clear, navigate a route and if you cannot what stops you from doing so. There may be sensory or cognitive issues that stop you, you cannot see where you are going or you cannot understand the instructions that you have been given, as examples.
You may also be able to score for mental health issues. So you can go out when there is no one about, but if you met someone you would not be able to continue, or you find that you cannot follow the route due to a diversion and the stress of trying to decide how to continue is so great that you cannot.
You must be able to complete this activity reliably and on the majority of days, I know you dismissed these in a previous post but they are very relevant to this activity and you should look at them again.
Gordon
I can't say whether you meet the criteria for an Enhanced award or not, not without knowing you personally.
The criteria are actually quite simple and break down into two wholly separate requirements.
Can you undertake a journey, this means can you go past your front door, there are two options; you can with prompting, this means with another person, or you cannot leave the house.
If yo can leave the house can you follow or to be more clear, navigate a route and if you cannot what stops you from doing so. There may be sensory or cognitive issues that stop you, you cannot see where you are going or you cannot understand the instructions that you have been given, as examples.
You may also be able to score for mental health issues. So you can go out when there is no one about, but if you met someone you would not be able to continue, or you find that you cannot follow the route due to a diversion and the stress of trying to decide how to continue is so great that you cannot.
You must be able to complete this activity reliably and on the majority of days, I know you dismissed these in a previous post but they are very relevant to this activity and you should look at them again.
Gordon
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6 years 1 month ago #207029 by kylie021088
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Just found my pip application form that's the cab filled out for me.
He put that I cannot leave my house without another person for any reason at anytime.
I need the support of another person at all times when leaving my house due to anxiety and the fear of the unknown.
That's all he put.
So basically the reasons for why I don't go out alone should of been expanded beyond saying due to anxiety?
Like the fact I only go out at the quietest times of the day.
I have panic attacks in crowds and then need support to escape the situation that panics me.
I often disassociate when I'm out as a way of protecting myself. When I am in this state i need guidance as I feel I'm in my own world and I'm not always aware of dangers or what I'm doing.
I can panic if I come across someone I know as I often struggle to engage with others and so if I see someone I know. I need to leave or get away immediately. Any unexpected engagement with someone when I'm out can leave me distressed and unable to carry on with the journey.
I rely heavily on the person I am with to help me control my panic attacks and dissociative behaviour.
I couldn't negotiate a diversion on my own as I cannot deal with change if I am not informed beforehand and therefore prepared. Even if I'm with another person it can leave me very anxious and unable to carry on with the journey.
Out of 7 days of the week I leave my house a maximum of 2 of those days. Often it's just going to my parents house. Which I will be picked up or taken by someone or a maximum of 1 day out of 7 I may do the food shop with my husband but again we'd pick the quietest time. Any journey out of my house leaves me exhausted and I will not plan anything for a few days following the journey to recover.
Sorry if the above didn't make much sense. I am not very good at explaining myself.
If none of that makes me entitled to it then I don't think I am.
It doesn't look like my award will be overturned either as clearly not enough evidence was given.
There's nothing I can do about that though is there.
He put that I cannot leave my house without another person for any reason at anytime.
I need the support of another person at all times when leaving my house due to anxiety and the fear of the unknown.
That's all he put.
So basically the reasons for why I don't go out alone should of been expanded beyond saying due to anxiety?
Like the fact I only go out at the quietest times of the day.
I have panic attacks in crowds and then need support to escape the situation that panics me.
I often disassociate when I'm out as a way of protecting myself. When I am in this state i need guidance as I feel I'm in my own world and I'm not always aware of dangers or what I'm doing.
I can panic if I come across someone I know as I often struggle to engage with others and so if I see someone I know. I need to leave or get away immediately. Any unexpected engagement with someone when I'm out can leave me distressed and unable to carry on with the journey.
I rely heavily on the person I am with to help me control my panic attacks and dissociative behaviour.
I couldn't negotiate a diversion on my own as I cannot deal with change if I am not informed beforehand and therefore prepared. Even if I'm with another person it can leave me very anxious and unable to carry on with the journey.
Out of 7 days of the week I leave my house a maximum of 2 of those days. Often it's just going to my parents house. Which I will be picked up or taken by someone or a maximum of 1 day out of 7 I may do the food shop with my husband but again we'd pick the quietest time. Any journey out of my house leaves me exhausted and I will not plan anything for a few days following the journey to recover.
Sorry if the above didn't make much sense. I am not very good at explaining myself.
If none of that makes me entitled to it then I don't think I am.
It doesn't look like my award will be overturned either as clearly not enough evidence was given.
There's nothing I can do about that though is there.
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