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6 years 1 month ago #207533 by Eggcustard
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Hi,

Just looking at my mandatory reconsideration info. I have a couple of questions please.

If I do something every other day but can’t do it on the other days at all because of fatigue and pain does that count as 50% or more? What if it is 50%? Is that the majority of the time?

Do I answer with the help I would need to be able to do it everyday?

Eg washing and dressing. At the moment I can’ only do this every other day on my own because of pain and fatigue but I don’t ask my partner to help, I just don’t do it at all that day. Do I say that if I had to do it everyday I would need help to do it or just that I can’t do it? (It is reasonable to assume that most people can wash and dress everyday) Eg he would have to help me get in and out of the bath, help with dressing.

I think this is where I didn’t explain myself well enough at the assessment. I don’t want him to have to help me do these things, it doesn’t mean I don’t need the help.

Thanks.

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6 years 1 month ago #207535 by Gordon
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Eggcustard

First of all avoid percentages if at all possible, the legal test is the majority of days, so 51% would meet the majority of time but not the majority of days in a week which is just over 57%!

Based on what you have described, you are sitting on the fence as you are saying that on half the days you are able to complete the activities and on the other half you are not, in this situation I think it likely that those assessing will opt for the former rather than the latter and will not award points

Gordon

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6 years 1 month ago #208249 by Eggcustard
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Thanks Gordon,

Can I just clarify please (I'm still unsure that I'm picking the correct descriptors). I have fibromyalgia, cfs and neuropathic pain in my leg.

Washing - every other day but less in flare up, takes more than twice as long as normal, causes increase in pain and fatigue so overall I think that means I can't do it repeatedly (as often as needed ie everyday) to an appropriate standard (I am not washing all of my body every time), and because of the effects it has on pain and fatigue I can't do it at al.
I think the descriptor should be can't wash at all.

Dressing, pretty much the same, can't do it everyday, causes increase in pain/fatigue, takes longer than normal so I think the correct descriptor is can't dress at all.

Cooking, I can't do this at all, my partner has to do it all because of pain and fatigue so again I think the correct descriptor is can't do it at all.

Walking - I am in considerable pain all of the time but because of a nerve pain problem as soon as I stand and start to walk it increases significantly. 6 days a week I can walk no further than the bathroom (3 meters), on the other day I can walk a bit further but like I say in lots of pain. So for this I think can stand and then move more than 1 metre but no more than 20 metres, either aided or unaided.

Do you think I have a reasonable argument for this?

Thanks.

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6 years 1 month ago #208261 by Gordon
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Eggcustard

Understanding that that I can only go on what you are posting, that this is the only view that I have of your limitations.

I'm afraid I think that your arguments are weak!

You make no reference to how aids might help you complete the activity or how help from another person might allow you to do this.

Picking on the Washing as an example, you are hoping to score the maximum points for this but you make no mention of any of the problems you have with the other Descriptors for this activity, for example washing your hair or body below the waist, getting in an and of a bath or shower or washing between your shoulders and waist.

You say you only wash every other day, but don't specifically explain why, it takes you twice as long but give no details of this and how long does it actually take a healthy person to wash. You talk about being unable to repeat it but why would you need to.

I'm sorry if this sounds like I am dissing everything that you have written but my only intereest is in trying to help you score the maximum points.

Gordon

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6 years 1 month ago #208267 by Eggcustard
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I know I haven't gone into much detail above, but none of the descriptors take into account fatigue. I physically can’t get out of bed to do anything most days apart from going to the loo. I really don’t know how fatigue fits the descriptors because to me if I can’t do an activity at all that day because I can’t get out of bed then surely that counts as a can’t do it at all day.

For example cooking, my daughter has to make breakfast, I don’t each lunch until my partner comes home from work because I can’t get to the kitchen and my partner has to cook tea. It’s not a case of if he chops things I can manage because I just don’t have the energy to do any of it at all. I know they don’t take into account getting to the kitchen but even if I could get there to get breakfast and lunch I would be flat out and unable to cook tea. Then the next day I couldn’t do anything at all because of fatigue from the day before.

Can anyone help with descriptors when it comes to fatigue, I’m going round in circles.

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6 years 1 month ago #208310 by Gordon
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Eggcustard

I can't tell you what to write but as a plan to answering the questions on the form, first of all understand the Descriptors that you were trying to meet and then break each one down in to the issues that make the Descriptor up, so for Preparing Food, think about each of the tasks that you would have to do for this, so;

- Selecting the food
- checking it's use by date
- preparing the food for cooking (peeling and chopping)
- placing the food of the hob
- cooking it
- removing it from the hob
- checking it is properly cooked

Then for each of these think how an aid or the help of another person might enable you to complete the task, then use the formula in the PIP Claim guide for answering the questions.

So as an example,

Due to the severe fatigue caused by my Fibromyalgia I am unable to stand at a worktop for a more than a few minutes to prepare food for cooking and have to use a perching stool, I am effected all of the time but the fatigue worsens as the day goes on and becomes so severe four days a week that even with the stool I am unable to remain at a worktop.

Gordon

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