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mental state examination 2 months 3 weeks ago #207733

Just had the decision through after my PIP face-to -face assessment. Needless to say they are reducing my benefits, so I'm in the process of asking for a "mandatory reconsideration".
In the decision letter, reference is made to a 'mental state examination". can anyone tell me what this is supposed to be? How do they evidence my mental state? is there a report on it?
Thank you for your help

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mental state examination 2 months 3 weeks ago #207758

orchardpig wrote: Just had the decision through after my PIP face-to -face assessment. Needless to say they are reducing my benefits, so I'm in the process of asking for a "mandatory reconsideration".
In the decision letter, reference is made to a 'mental state examination". can anyone tell me what this is supposed to be? How do they evidence my mental state? is there a report on it?
Thank you for your help



The MSE tests used by assessors are very simplistic although this does not stop them placing unreasonable reliance on them, passing the tests does not mean that you have mental health issues and failing doesn't mean that you haven't

There are three tests that they use;

1. A memory test where you are ask to remember five items and then asked to recall them later in the interview.

2. A processing test where you are asked to count backwards from 100 in 7s, so 100, 93, etc.

3, A comprehension test where you are asked to explain what the linked activities mean.

There's no special report and the assessor is unlikely to go any farther that mention whether you passed or not in there assessment report.

Gordon

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mental state examination 2 months 3 weeks ago #207773

If you google "mental State Exam" you will find examples of what it is supposed to be. Gp's use it to check if someone has dementia. The assessors seem to be using one or two questions from it and referring to it as the whole exam! I do not know if this has been challenged at all. It is hardly thorough. I was asked if I had a quid and spent 75p how much change would I have, and also to spell WORLD backwards.

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mental state examination 2 months 3 weeks ago #207789

Thank you Gordon. The assessor didn't ask use any of the three tests that you mention. Yet their decision talks about the results of the test...apparently I passed!
I'll keep you posted.

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mental state examination 2 months 3 weeks ago #207791

Thank you, Strange. I am familiar with the dementia tests currently used by GPs. However, the assessor did nothing like that during my assessment.
Their explanation of this mental state examination will be interesting. I'll keep you posted.

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