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6 years 3 weeks ago #209099 by niki_s_uk
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I have recently had my renewal for PIP and I had said there was no change other than to a stomach condition which I have. I got the decision and they have given me my standard rate of care, which I had but reduced the mobility from enhanced down to standard.
I really don't know why they have done this, the report given by them as to why states I can walk further than I actually can due to the pain I am in.
I am going to ask for a mandatory reconsideration and I asked my GP to give me a report but he says they can only give the medical history as opposed to him writing a report. He has written on the system about the help I need but I don't know if this can be read by the powers that be as me just stating the help I need.
I really haven't a clue what to do now for the best or whether to submit the medical notes with my Dr's bit on the bottom.
When I rang about the decision the person I spoke to was saying that she can set that in motion over the phone and I mentioned the form, which she told me that there isn't a form online to complete - is it worth my printing that off and add my reasons for wanting it to be looked at again or not?
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I have recently had my renewal for PIP and I had said there was no change other than to a stomach condition which I have. I got the decision and they have given me my standard rate of care, which I had but reduced the mobility from enhanced down to standard.
I really don't know why they have done this, the report given by them as to why states I can walk further than I actually can due to the pain I am in.
I am going to ask for a mandatory reconsideration and I asked my GP to give me a report but he says they can only give the medical history as opposed to him writing a report. He has written on the system about the help I need but I don't know if this can be read by the powers that be as me just stating the help I need.
I really haven't a clue what to do now for the best or whether to submit the medical notes with my Dr's bit on the bottom.
When I rang about the decision the person I spoke to was saying that she can set that in motion over the phone and I mentioned the form, which she told me that there isn't a form online to complete - is it worth my printing that off and add my reasons for wanting it to be looked at again or not?
Thanks
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6 years 3 weeks ago #209110 by Gordon
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Nic
Some additional things to think of in regard to showing the distance that you can walk.
You are not required to walk pain free but any pain that restricts the distance that you can walk should be taken into account.
Specifically for the Moving Around activity, if you are able to walk but you are in severe pain when doing so, then you can argue that your walking is not to a necessary standard and should be disregarded.
The legal test requires you to stand and then move (walk), so if you have problems getting up then you should document these as well.
If you walk slowly then it must take you at least twice the time to cover the 20m as a healthy person would, this could be down to the speed of your walking but could also be the result of having to stop.
You must be able to repeat the distance, so if you could walk it once but not then be able to walk it again within a reasonable timescale then you should be classed as unable to repeat the activity.
I'm afraid I can't tell you how to show your walking is more restricted but other things you need to think about is what you can't do, for example what can you walk in your house, how far is the toilet from where you normally sit, things that will count against you are any trips that you make outside, so for example, how do you do your shopping?
You must be able to walk the distance you can, reliably and on the majority of days, both these terms are defined in the PIP Claim guide
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/pip
So you need to explain what you can, how you are limited and why.
Gordon
Some additional things to think of in regard to showing the distance that you can walk.
You are not required to walk pain free but any pain that restricts the distance that you can walk should be taken into account.
Specifically for the Moving Around activity, if you are able to walk but you are in severe pain when doing so, then you can argue that your walking is not to a necessary standard and should be disregarded.
The legal test requires you to stand and then move (walk), so if you have problems getting up then you should document these as well.
If you walk slowly then it must take you at least twice the time to cover the 20m as a healthy person would, this could be down to the speed of your walking but could also be the result of having to stop.
You must be able to repeat the distance, so if you could walk it once but not then be able to walk it again within a reasonable timescale then you should be classed as unable to repeat the activity.
I'm afraid I can't tell you how to show your walking is more restricted but other things you need to think about is what you can't do, for example what can you walk in your house, how far is the toilet from where you normally sit, things that will count against you are any trips that you make outside, so for example, how do you do your shopping?
You must be able to walk the distance you can, reliably and on the majority of days, both these terms are defined in the PIP Claim guide
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/pip
So you need to explain what you can, how you are limited and why.
Gordon
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6 years 3 weeks ago #209116 by niki_s_uk
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Thank you Gordon.
I don’t know how they have changed it as there’s no way I can go anywhere without being in so much pain, that I have to stop. This has never changed and even for the medical it was out of the car and straight in the door, maybe one meter. Once in the door it was maybe 2 meters to the seat I sat on until moving a further meter into the room for the assessment. - it’s said in the notes on the decision that I was seen to walk linking arms with my husband at an altered gait.
They also fixed the permanent nerve damage in my arms in the report - which I apparently have full power - the assessor did the test twice because of the reduced power.
There are lots of things on the care component that I scraped the 2 points on but only the two points by them saying that I can do it but need an Aid, which is complete rubbish.
I was apparently relaxed, not agitated or upset - it’s impossible for anyone to not be agitated when going through these assessments. The truth was I was in tears by the end of it.
There are lots of things they’ve overlooked and I just don’t know where to start with it all.
I don’t know how they have changed it as there’s no way I can go anywhere without being in so much pain, that I have to stop. This has never changed and even for the medical it was out of the car and straight in the door, maybe one meter. Once in the door it was maybe 2 meters to the seat I sat on until moving a further meter into the room for the assessment. - it’s said in the notes on the decision that I was seen to walk linking arms with my husband at an altered gait.
They also fixed the permanent nerve damage in my arms in the report - which I apparently have full power - the assessor did the test twice because of the reduced power.
There are lots of things on the care component that I scraped the 2 points on but only the two points by them saying that I can do it but need an Aid, which is complete rubbish.
I was apparently relaxed, not agitated or upset - it’s impossible for anyone to not be agitated when going through these assessments. The truth was I was in tears by the end of it.
There are lots of things they’ve overlooked and I just don’t know where to start with it all.
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6 years 3 weeks ago #209155 by Gordon
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Nic
Is there anything that argues against the distance that you can work, for example do you go shopping?
As to the aids did you specificially explain why you can't use them, if you didn't then it's a reasonable assumption that you can.
Have you requested a copy of the assessment report? If not then contact the DWP office dealing with your claim.
You can either print and fill in the new DWP form or write a letter requesting the MR, there is a template for this that you can use in the Submissions PDF in the PIP section.
Gordon
Is there anything that argues against the distance that you can work, for example do you go shopping?
As to the aids did you specificially explain why you can't use them, if you didn't then it's a reasonable assumption that you can.
Have you requested a copy of the assessment report? If not then contact the DWP office dealing with your claim.
You can either print and fill in the new DWP form or write a letter requesting the MR, there is a template for this that you can use in the Submissions PDF in the PIP section.
Gordon
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6 years 3 weeks ago #209166 by niki_s_uk
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Hi Gordon
No there’s nothing like shopping etc that I do and it was all on the original DLA to PIP form, which when I said no change they really should have looked at. It seems like they haven’t looked back on my form at all.
I don’t have a copy of the assessment but I will request it today - thanks, I wasn’t sure if I could get it at this stage.
I do use the aids provided but that in no way allows me to do the activities the aids are for without other help from my husband.
I was refused walking sticks etc because of the nerve damage and the person who came from the medical equipment service said it would cause more harm if my arms/hands were to give way when using one.
It does say on the report:
My Decision
Changed the descriptors previously chosen based on the medical evidence received. I decided to award you PIP for a longer time. I reduced your PIP from 12th March as I would not expect you to know the information provided would affect your report.
I have no idea what that means, other than what I asked about the medical evidence - which was apparently my gastrosopy reports. Any ideas please?
No there’s nothing like shopping etc that I do and it was all on the original DLA to PIP form, which when I said no change they really should have looked at. It seems like they haven’t looked back on my form at all.
I don’t have a copy of the assessment but I will request it today - thanks, I wasn’t sure if I could get it at this stage.
I do use the aids provided but that in no way allows me to do the activities the aids are for without other help from my husband.
I was refused walking sticks etc because of the nerve damage and the person who came from the medical equipment service said it would cause more harm if my arms/hands were to give way when using one.
It does say on the report:
My Decision
Changed the descriptors previously chosen based on the medical evidence received. I decided to award you PIP for a longer time. I reduced your PIP from 12th March as I would not expect you to know the information provided would affect your report.
I have no idea what that means, other than what I asked about the medical evidence - which was apparently my gastrosopy reports. Any ideas please?
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6 years 3 weeks ago #209184 by Gordon
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Nic
The comment seems to be suggesting that the evidence that you supplied actually showed a lower level of disability and that is why they reduced your award, however, this seems to be at odds with your own view of it. I think you will need to see the assessment report before you can decipher this further.
Gordon
The comment seems to be suggesting that the evidence that you supplied actually showed a lower level of disability and that is why they reduced your award, however, this seems to be at odds with your own view of it. I think you will need to see the assessment report before you can decipher this further.
Gordon
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