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13 years 3 months ago #41026 by terdun9
is this to long do you think or should i shoren it if so how i think i need to get this stuff across thank you
Dear Decision maker
I appealing a disability living allowance decision.
I am now in severe pain a combination of what I would muscular and joint pain means I am feeling so heavy most days unable to walk. due to severe wide-span pain just about everywhere really. I am in pain every minute of the day whether i walk or not.
But I never know what levels of pain and discomfort I`ll be suffering each day I can`t walk the amount of pain is subjective from onset of walking the pain in my feet legs knees and lower back can and also is severe then I have to stop and that's in for hours till I can move again but still in a great deal severe about of pain. I now have a very limited ability to walk but every time I walk I`am in severe pain.

The DWP doctor who came to see was Pressuring for an answer to this Question on how far can I walk over and over again he wanted answers now he kept looking at his watch all the time I need a distance to this question but the kept asking my husband this question this is fine because he is the one who helps me looks after me all the time I cant say carer because he is my husband but yes he gives me all the care I need.
Well answer to this QUESTION IS ;"No distance at all without severe discomfort, fatigue"He also asked loads of other questions But when i/we answered them he just talked over my answer and the looked at his watch and then made little scribbled notes on the back of a envelope not on the paper work you gave him to fill in. I felt the The Health Care Professional who visited me should of not come that day because he clearly didn’t have the time to do what was needed to be done being he was clock watching the whole time he was here
This I told you on this phone number given on top of all the letters from you did this on the Monday morning following the Doctors visit on the Saturday before this was arranged over the phone I was at the doctors I think when the call came in my son took the message with only 2 or 3 days notice This visit was to be on the Thursday 18th November 2010 then when the hand delivered envelope I then phoned the number on the letter and was told that oh my husband cant make that date he will have to come on the Saturday morning between 9 & 10 I asked if it could be later due the the lake or no sleep I don’t have most nights and was told no because he has to be in/at the surgery later that day so I had no choice but to say yes
On the Saturday the door bell went at 8;50 he said sorry i`m early but is it OK I let him in he asked to see a driving licence for id I told him I don’t have a photo one but have the old green paper one he said oh no its OK please sign this for me I asked what was it he told me its just to say I seen something to id you well this he clearly had not I offered to get a passport he said no its OK and this is when he started to clock watch,
After a few questions he asked to physically examine me This I had no objection to but I didnt no he was allowed to physically do as it was a questionnaire he was doing.he saw how bad my hands are with this dermatitis I told him that my hands and wrists are bad enough but when it comes to washing showering its very hard because of the dermatitis it hurts when it wet and also soap also makes it hurt then , then when it comes to peppering a meal potatoes tomatoes fruit they all hurt my hand to hold and then the wrist wont let me do anything because I find it very hard to hold anything like a knife let alone cut anything that's slightly hard.

I really don't do much now days because of the pain and theirs really not much I can do without making things worse I get upset quite lot and I think sometime feel sad and feed up with never going out not even shopping the only time I go out now days are to the hospital or to doctors but I don't even do that any more because its pointless there is not much more thay can do if I do need to go anywhere it has to be as late in the day as possible because of me being able to wake up early enough to get to go wherever it is I have to go to then its not always possible for me to get there because I feel unsure or unsafe to go out I do still fall over and nearly always end on my knees then am in pain for weeks because I have hurt myself again.

The aids I have at home are up risers for the chairs sofa hand rails round the home and I have bathroom I have had the toilet raised to my height it is on blocks so I don't need to bend down quite so low I have a frame round the toilet also I have a shower (over the bath ) seat but I no longer shower because having had a slight/nearly full out of the shower I just don't do it any more.


When if I do get to sleep I keep waking early hours then I cant get back to sleep so then that's me awake all night I have also woken up with what I can only say are panic attacks because this is the same thing I have sometimes  f I go out racing heart rate racing shortness of breath and overwhelming worry, I do/ could experience severe discomfort from exhaustion


Getting up at night I don't do any more because if I fall while I`am downstairs none will no I have to stay awake and stay in bed so I`am then very tired during the day and no way feel motivated to do anything I do experience severe discomfort from exhaustion




He also asked me about the falls I DO have often I told him about them and he dismissed then so quickly and again talking over my answer I thought to myself what’s the point of him asking me the question if he is not going to listen to it
please find enclosed a letter from my GP and Podiatrist and I really hop that this helps

 


     

To Much Pain Will Kill Y ou In The End
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13 years 3 months ago #41032 by Survivor
We can't advise on individual appeals.

I think that this letter is good insofar as it explains specific points that have been (I assume) inadequately addressed in the medical report. However, it may be that there are other factors that are relevant to include, and without seeing all the paperwork, it isn't possible to advise on whether this letter is adequate.

I notice there's a typo there - peppering for preparing.

There are places where you've started a fresh sentence on a fresh line but put in no paragraph break. This probably sounds like hair splitting, but I'm a firm believer that if you want to persuade someone of something, you make it as easy as possible for them to read your argument.

If it were me, I'd seek some face-to-face advice from someone who could look at the Atos report and see if you've addressed all the issues concerned.
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13 years 3 months ago #41034 by originaldave
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Jacqui wrote:

is this to long do you think or should i shoren it if so how i think i need to get this stuff across thank you
Dear Decision maker
I appealing a disability living allowance decision.
I am now in severe pain a combination of what I would muscular and joint pain means I am feeling so heavy most days unable to walk. due to severe wide-span pain just about everywhere really. I am in pain every minute of the day whether i walk or not.
But I never know what levels of pain and discomfort I`ll be suffering each day I can`t walk the amount of pain is subjective from onset of walking the pain in my feet legs knees and lower back can and also is severe then I have to stop and that's in for hours till I can move again but still in a great deal severe about of pain. I now have a very limited ability to walk but every time I walk I`am in severe pain.

The DWP doctor who came to see was Pressuring for an answer to this Question on how far can I walk over and over again he wanted answers now he kept looking at his watch all the time I need a distance to this question but the kept asking my husband this question this is fine because he is the one who helps me looks after me all the time I cant say carer because he is my husband but yes he gives me all the care I need.
Well answer to this QUESTION IS ;"No distance at all without severe discomfort, fatigue"He also asked loads of other questions But when i/we answered them he just talked over my answer and the looked at his watch and then made little scribbled notes on the back of a envelope not on the paper work you gave him to fill in. I felt the The Health Care Professional who visited me should of not come that day because he clearly didn’t have the time to do what was needed to be done being he was clock watching the whole time he was here
This I told you on this phone number given on top of all the letters from you did this on the Monday morning following the Doctors visit on the Saturday before this was arranged over the phone I was at the doctors I think when the call came in my son took the message with only 2 or 3 days notice This visit was to be on the Thursday 18th November 2010 then when the hand delivered envelope I then phoned the number on the letter and was told that oh my husband cant make that date he will have to come on the Saturday morning between 9 & 10 I asked if it could be later due the the lake or no sleep I don’t have most nights and was told no because he has to be in/at the surgery later that day so I had no choice but to say yes
On the Saturday the door bell went at 8;50 he said sorry i`m early but is it OK I let him in he asked to see a driving licence for id I told him I don’t have a photo one but have the old green paper one he said oh no its OK please sign this for me I asked what was it he told me its just to say I seen something to id you well this he clearly had not I offered to get a passport he said no its OK and this is when he started to clock watch,
After a few questions he asked to physically examine me This I had no objection to but I didnt no he was allowed to physically do as it was a questionnaire he was doing.he saw how bad my hands are with this dermatitis I told him that my hands and wrists are bad enough but when it comes to washing showering its very hard because of the dermatitis it hurts when it wet and also soap also makes it hurt then , then when it comes to peppering a meal potatoes tomatoes fruit they all hurt my hand to hold and then the wrist wont let me do anything because I find it very hard to hold anything like a knife let alone cut anything that's slightly hard.

I really don't do much now days because of the pain and theirs really not much I can do without making things worse I get upset quite lot and I think sometime feel sad and feed up with never going out not even shopping the only time I go out now days are to the hospital or to doctors but I don't even do that any more because its pointless there is not much more thay can do if I do need to go anywhere it has to be as late in the day as possible because of me being able to wake up early enough to get to go wherever it is I have to go to then its not always possible for me to get there because I feel unsure or unsafe to go out I do still fall over and nearly always end on my knees then am in pain for weeks because I have hurt myself again.

The aids I have at home are up risers for the chairs sofa hand rails round the home and I have bathroom I have had the toilet raised to my height it is on blocks so I don't need to bend down quite so low I have a frame round the toilet also I have a shower (over the bath ) seat but I no longer shower because having had a slight/nearly full out of the shower I just don't do it any more.


When if I do get to sleep I keep waking early hours then I cant get back to sleep so then that's me awake all night I have also woken up with what I can only say are panic attacks because this is the same thing I have sometimes  f I go out racing heart rate racing shortness of breath and overwhelming worry, I do/ could experience severe discomfort from exhaustion


Getting up at night I don't do any more because if I fall while I`am downstairs none will no I have to stay awake and stay in bed so I`am then very tired during the day and no way feel motivated to do anything I do experience severe discomfort from exhaustion




He also asked me about the falls I DO have often I told him about them and he dismissed then so quickly and again talking over my answer I thought to myself what’s the point of him asking me the question if he is not going to listen to it
please find enclosed a letter from my GP and Podiatrist and I really hop that this helps

 


     


Think what is the letter for? its to get DLA not argue the facts of how you where treated.

words like Pressuring not helpful


made little scribbled notes, say he did not seem to take detailed notes

I never know what levels of pain and discomfort ....... tell them your in pain and dont have good days



feeling so heavy ???????????............. takes lots of effort



also you dont say whats wrong... now we know you get help for your problems .... but it might help if you say I have and it affects me by.............. and list problems
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13 years 3 months ago #41036 by Gordon
Jacqui

Are you including your letter with a GL24 Appeal Request form? If not you should consider doing so, you can download a copy from this site.

www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/gl24dwp.pdf

Gordon

Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems
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13 years 3 months ago #41037 by terdun9
Hi Survivor i still not got the report yet i just got a letter saying that the desion is no and i think that would be because oif the so called doctor thank for your help i have to rush this letter to them as i phoned them yestereday and asked how long to i have and they said we have to have it herer by Jan 3rd well i then asked what about the fact of this horried weather and that the post office might noy get it to you by then even if i have proff that i posted it say today she said that thier is nothing thay can do about that Great :( not looking good for me is it

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13 years 3 months ago #41042 by terdun9
hi Dave thank you this si a renewal for my DLA i i was on middle (M) and low (c)now i have just got (C) and NO (m) i have slipped you very helpful changes in to my letter i have fibromyaliga and a few related thing should i really list them all over again i though i was ment to keep this sort of stuff short because thay just dont read them other wise yes i really dont want to have to go to appale sa i dont think i can manage it again but i really want to be ablle to send this off and hopfuly get the letter in up to 11 weeks time with a real decision on it thank you Dave

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