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Confused?

  • originaldave
13 years 1 month ago #45574 by originaldave
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Gordon wrote:

Rachel

Thank you. You are right that many government bodies view the illness as psycological with physical symptoms, although there is no research to support this and in fact much to the contrary.

I was actually hoping that kriss would post a link to the phrase he has quoted, so that we can answer his question. :)

Gordon



there is lots of research saying lots of things .. but for a decent classification of it the 2 links below are not bad


apps.who.int/classifications/apps/icd/ic...nline/?gg90.htm+g933

www.diseasesdatabase.com/ddb1645.htm

www.nlm.nih.gov/cgi/mesh/2010/MB_cgi?field=uid&term=D015673



the one below is used by US insurance companies when its claimed for :)


www.icd9data.com/2011/Volume1/780-799/780-789/780/780.71.htm

I post that one as an example as to how US Insurance SOFTWARE is wrote for medical reasons and insurance claims worth looking for your own problem on that link as it might just give you some idea how atos see your health issue ;)

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13 years 1 month ago #45579 by Gordon
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kriss wrote:

Hi Gordon,

Sorry to take so long to get back (computor has developed a mind of its own ) found the info in ' Help for Claiments', Incapacity Resources, Common Diseases and wondered what they meant.

Thanks
Kriss

An IB113 is a request for further medical evidence and is usually sent to your GP.

One of the problems with ME/CFS is with regard to diagnosis, many of the symptoms overlap with other conditions, and so it becomes a case of eliminating these illnesses before arriving, basically with nothing else left, at a conclusion of ME/CFS.

There is also considerable range as to how ME/CFS can affect a sufferer, at one extreme there are those indiivduals who are almost permamently bed bound and at the other end is increased tiredness.

All of this leads to confusion and misunderstanding, and a general lack of regard by the public and even many physicians as to the reality of the condition. Something I guess most, if not all, ME/CFS sufferers have encountered, I know I have. :(

Gordon

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13 years 1 month ago #45582 by kriss
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Phoned the DWP and spoke to a lady and asked her what these PCA things were, she asked why I wanted to know and told her found the info on the Internet. She was honest and said that she hadn't worked in that department but would ask and to hang on. she came back and said that the codes were letters sent to your doctor (from their filing system) regarding your illness and doctor would send required info back,but as they no longer issue them,she assumed that ATOS now send them as they carry out all the Medical Assessments, but as she wasn't sure said I should contact them but they probably refere me back to the DWP. If indeed they (ATOS) do ask your Doctor re one of these forms, it is more than likley they will disregarded the medical history the doctor sent and reach their own conclusion about your health in relation to work. Lady said she didn't know anything about that. I reply I'd meant it as a joke thaked her for the help and hung up. Didn't bother phoning ATOS as I know from experience they won't answer questions they do reffer you back to DWP.

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  • kriss
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13 years 1 month ago #45583 by kriss
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Have had this condition for five years now and after pleading with doctors for help in trying to have better coping strateges ( I have a good day, I get stuck into housework ect and suffer for the next three or four days) with mental health issues mediction can work but sometimes with the occasional hiccup, but i was still able to work.
My doctor reffered me to The Wel Program and am getting hints and tips on how to cope better, but it was a slog getting to that point of referal.
I am one of the lucky people who can work with mental health issues but CFS stopped me in my tracks....I don't understand why most of the Medical Health Profession seem to think it is all in your head espcially if you have exhausted all medical tests (bloods ect) over the course of two years.
I hate CFS, I want a life and I want to work and pay my way, but I can barely walk the dogs own my own.

Whe benefits got stopped in 2009 I was sent to the Job Centre where I got a Helping you Back to Work Advisor, he asked about my illness and I told him (he was young) imagine going to a party when you finish work on a Friday and it doesn't finnish till Monday morning,you go staight to work...could you function in your normal capacity and do all the stuff you have to do. He ever gave me an answer but we didn'tjob search and he didn't mind if I couldn't make all my appointments. Benefits awarded back July 2010. New Goverment, new medical, beefits stopped Nov 2010 back to square one. Appeal pending not to be heard before 30 June 2011

Sorry for the rant.

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  • Survivor
13 years 1 month ago #45584 by Survivor
Replied by Survivor on topic Re:Confused?
For the purpose of benefits, it shouldn't matter whether ME/CFS is classified as a mental condition or a physical condition. Quite a few mental conditions, including severe depression, cause severe tiredness, so even if a particular doctor thinks your CFS is a mental condition, this should not be a reason for ignoring the reality of your fatigue or its impact on you. To give an example, I have bipolar disorder and most nights these days I sleep 12-13 hours, and I also rest during the day. That's a mental condition. So if someone tries to say you can't be tired because they think your CFS is a mental condition, tell them it isn't relevant - you're fatigued.

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13 years 1 month ago #45587 by Gordon
Replied by Gordon on topic Re:Confused?
I know the following excerpt from the A-Z of Medical Conditions specifically states DLA, but as there does not appear to an equivalent for IB or ESA, I think it is still relevant.

For the purpose of DLA, however, the current law means that a claimant cannot be eligible for a higher rate of mobility unless his/her disability is considered "physical". For this purpose, CFS/ME is "physical".


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