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Is falling asleep being unconscious ?

  • Rob Roy
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12 years 10 months ago #57461 by Rob Roy
Is falling asleep being unconscious ? was created by Rob Roy
As title. As I suffer from extreme fatigue and sleep apnea. I unwillingly nod off at very inappropriate times.

Can this be classed as loosing consciousness as it is quite involuntary ??

Rob
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  • pete17971
12 years 10 months ago #57464 by pete17971
Replied by pete17971 on topic Re:Is falling asleep being unconscious ?
Rob Roy wrote:

As title. As I suffer from extreme fatigue and sleep apnea. I unwillingly nod off at very inappropriate times.

Can this be classed as loosing consciousness as it is quite involuntary ??

Rob



Hi Roy,

You haven't said which benefit you may be trying to claim or in which circumstances you are asking.

However I hazard a guess and say it probably would not be classed as losing consciousness, as there is quite a difference between 'nodding off' due to sleep aponea and unconsciousness.

I do know of someone with a similar condition who has been provided with a form of loud bleeper that bleeps and has to be cancelled if it detects, by lack of movement, that the person has nodded off. Obviously it is switched off at bedtime!. It seems to work very well to overcome the problem.

Pete
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  • Rob Roy
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12 years 10 months ago #57474 by Rob Roy
Replied by Rob Roy on topic Re:Is falling asleep being unconscious ?
Hi Pete.
I've been on IB and DLA high mobility and medium care due to MS since 1995.

I'm just getting round to filling this ESA50 form in.Not only have they moved the goal posts I can't see any. Maybe I now have sight problems too :laugh:

Rob
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  • originaldave
12 years 10 months ago #57480 by originaldave
Replied by originaldave on topic Re:Is falling asleep being unconscious ?
Rob Roy wrote:

As title. As I suffer from extreme fatigue and sleep apnea. I unwillingly nod off at very inappropriate times.

Can this be classed as loosing consciousness as it is quite involuntary ??

Rob


The simple answer IMO is no and its to do with the sleep-wake cycles ....Disorders of consciousness is not sleep apnea what is for example is Locked-in syndrome or Persistent vegetative state the other is brain death one missing ???Chronic coma nope still one missing must be five
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12 years 10 months ago #57538 by s.jmoore@blueyonder.co.uk
Replied by s.jmoore@blueyonder.co.uk on topic Re:Is falling asleep being unconscious ?
pete17971 wrote:

Rob Roy wrote:

As title. As I suffer from extreme fatigue and sleep apnea. I unwillingly nod off at very inappropriate times.

Can this be classed as loosing consciousness as it is quite involuntary ??

Rob



Hi Roy,

You haven't said which benefit you may be trying to claim or in which circumstances you are asking.

However I hazard a guess and say it probably would not be classed as losing consciousness, as there is quite a difference between 'nodding off' due to sleep aponea and unconsciousness.

I do know of someone with a similar condition who has been provided with a form of loud bleeper that bleeps and has to be cancelled if it detects, by lack of movement, that the person has nodded off. Obviously it is switched off at bedtime!. It seems to work very well to overcome the problem.

Pete


Well I don't think that we work with me I'm afraid. Due to my thyroid problems I experience extreme fatigue which often results in me falling asleep so fast that It's like having a blackout. I've done it whilst I've been with other people in a room and it takes a lot to wake me. I can be dead to the world for hours. :(

So I'm a bit surprised to hear that wouldn't count as altered consciousness in the ESA form. :(
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  • confused13
12 years 10 months ago #57541 by confused13
Replied by confused13 on topic Re:Is falling asleep being unconscious ?
Sorry only just posted my first post and now expressing an opinion :( I have sleep aponea and having other test for fatigue. The dvla heard about me nodding off about 3 times a day and said they wanted my licence back as i was not in a concious state to drive, I dont now due to surgery but at the mo still retain the licence, my point is if I cant drive due to this how come it might not be considered for a "state of unconscousness" the govt: cant have its cake and eat it as they say. IMHO.
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