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A few ESA50 questions

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12 years 6 months ago #70293 by bro58
Replied by bro58 on topic Re:A few ESA50 questions
Hi K,

Have you considered getting Mum to use the interactive ESA50 that can be downloaded from this link.:

www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/...lasset/dg_195544.pdf

You must download and save it to your P.C. hard drive.

It can be filled in at your own pace (Within deadline given), you can save and edit as you wish, and if you find the text is getting too small, simply continue on a seperate A4 page.

It is perfectly fine to post this interactive version back to ATOS instead of the one that you received in the post.

Once you have completed it, you simply print it off, you are then left with an exact copy on your P.C. for future reference.

Many members have used this interactive version, and have found it is much easier than hand writing it.

cheers

bro58

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12 years 6 months ago #70296 by Gordon
Replied by Gordon on topic Re:A few ESA50 questions
Krato

Yes, lack of motivation is still relevant.

I see Bro58 has covered off your other questions.

Gordon

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12 years 6 months ago #70309 by krato
Replied by krato on topic Re:A few ESA50 questions
Thanks bro58 and Gordon,
Thanks for the download link I'll show it her and see which she'd prefer to do.

For 16. Coping with social situations. To score 15 points:
16a "Engagement in social contact is always precluded due to difficulty relating to others or significant distress experienced by the individual"

The B&W MH guide notes "...you are less likely to score points for this as (16)(a) requires you to 'always' have this problem" (p52). And "Engagement in social contact might include... attending interviews, appointments..." (p55) So how is it possible to score this? If social contact is 'always' precluded then it would be impossible to go to the medical, hospital appointments, etc therefore you wouldn't be able to get ESA.

For example, Someone 'always TRIES' to prevent social contact, and very rarely sees anyone due to the distress it causes them, but when required to, such as a hospital appointment or medical, they 'know' they have to go, even though it causes them extreme distress. Would this generally and more likely be satisfactory for 16a, 16b or 16c?

Sorry for all of the questions, I just find some of the descriptors rather vague. =[

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12 years 6 months ago #70313 by Gordon
Replied by Gordon on topic Re:A few ESA50 questions
krato

Have a look at the following thread which discusses the topic at some length.

www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/forum?func=view&catid=10&id=63687

and page 107 of the WCA Handbook in the Members Only area.

Gordon

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12 years 6 months ago #70317 by mangof
Replied by mangof on topic Re:A few ESA50 questions
To join in if that's ok...

I suffer from chronic fatigue but I don't have a diagnosis of that as such as the root cause of this problem is a mental health one.

Does that mean I would score nothing on the first question on the physical disability thing? (walking 200m) Because I was going to fill in that at length since extreme fatigue is such a big issue for me?

Thanks.

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12 years 6 months ago #70321 by Gordon
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displayname wrote:

To join in if that's ok...

I suffer from chronic fatigue but I don't have a diagnosis of that as such as the root cause of this problem is a mental health one.

Does that mean I would score nothing on the first question on the physical disability thing? (walking 200m) Because I was going to fill in that at length since extreme fatigue is such a big issue for me?

Thanks.

Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is defined by the DWP as a physical illneaa allowing you to score points in any applicable Physical ESA test.

The WCA was modified at the end of March to include terms that were more relevant to fluctuating condition such as ME/CFS.

So the Mobilise test now includes the word Exhaustion in the criteria, and there is a clear requirement to "repeatedly mobilise within a reasonable timescale".

Gordon

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