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12 years 2 months ago #80022 by Gordon
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The following is an extract from the WCA Handbook.

4.1.3 Audio and video taping of examinations

At the present time, the DWP are considering their position on the issue of audio taping of assessments following the publication of the “Harrington Report” in 2010. In this report, one of Professor Harrington’s recommendations was that there should be a pilot and evaluation involving the audio taping of assessments.

Until this evaluation has taken place and further guidance is issued, should a claimant attend the assessment requesting permission to either audio or videotape the medical assessment you should politely refuse on the following grounds:

The Department for Work and Pensions does not require that a medical assessment for the purpose of advising on entitlement to state sickness or disability benefits be recorded on audio or videotape.

Such a claimant request can only be agreed with the prior consent of the examining practitioner, and then only if stringent safeguards are in place to ensure that the recording is complete, accurate, and that the facility is available for simultaneous copies to be made available to all parties present. The recording must be made by a professional operator, on equipment of a high standard, properly calibrated by a qualified engineer immediately prior to the recording being made.

The equipment must have facility for reproduction so that a copy of the tape can be retained by all parties.

The responsibility for meeting the cost of the above requirement rests with the claimant.

Any request by a claimant for an assessment to be audio or videotaped must be declined unless the above safeguards are in place. The claimant must instead be offered the opportunity of a rescheduled assessment in the presence of a companion or other witness. If the claimant refuses to avail him/her self of this opportunity and refuses to proceed with the assessment, the practitioner should return the file to the Department for Work and Pensions with an ESA 85A min explaining the situation.

Unauthorised taping
It is for Atos Healthcare, in conjunction with their legal advisers, to determine the action to be taken in the event of a claimant making an audio or video recording without the prior knowledge and consent of the examining practitioner, or without ensuring that the safeguards defined above are in place.

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12 years 2 months ago #80023 by MSHusband
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IANAL but have repeatedly come across the advice that evidence of any conversation (in person, or via phone) needs to be submitted in writing (i.e. as a transcript) which a recording can then be used to validate.

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12 years 2 months ago - 12 years 2 months ago #80024 by bro58
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MSHusband wrote:

IANAL but have repeatedly come across the advice that evidence of any conversation (in person, or via phone) needs to be submitted in writing (i.e. as a transcript) which a recording can then be used to validate.


Hi MSH.

IANAL, that's a new one on me, or am I just showing my age? :laugh:

After checking, and for other "oldies" enlightenment, I believe it stands for,

"I Am Not A Lawyer"

cheers

bro58
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12 years 2 months ago #80025 by Gordon
Replied by Gordon on topic Re:Demand your Atos assessment is recorded
MSHusband wrote:

IANAL but have repeatedly come across the advice that evidence of any conversation (in person, or via phone) needs to be submitted in writing (i.e. as a transcript) which a recording can then be used to validate.

The issue, which is untested, is that the conversation can only be disclosed to a third party with the explicit permission of all parties to that conversation.

Gordon

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12 years 2 months ago #80026 by MSHusband
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You are quite right !

IANAL, but have a good working knowledge of data protection, so feel quite confident in my comment. It's really a case of "my house my rules", although as far as I am aware, in the event of a claimant (or their carer) covertly recording the medical at a centre, the only remedy would be a civil claim for damages, and in the case of recording at home, there would be no remedy.

In my mind, the only value of any recording would be if the outcome of the medical seemed to contradict what was said, something I have read of many times.

What is the stance regarding a carer taking contemporaneous (can you believe I spelled that first time !) notes, if such an act did not interfere with the medical ?

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12 years 2 months ago #80027 by MSHusband
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I was specifically thinking of evidence in an open court of law.

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