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11 years 2 months ago - 11 years 2 months ago #97941 by Drizzle
28th January 2013 changes was created by Drizzle
Since I'm due to be reassessed for ESA soon, I'm very worried about the changes from the above date, namely on the subject of being declared fit for work if I refuse treatment.

I'm currently in the Support Group due to depression and anxiety. My condition is treatment resistant and I've had every treatment offered to me. I saw a new psychiatrist a couple of years ago who suggested a course of therapy I had already undergone several times. I explained that the treatment hadn't worked before and that I was no longer able to attend therapy anyway, due to my anxiety and agoraphobia. The psychiatrist was very arrogant and wouldn't listen to my concerns and simply dismissed me as non-compliant. He would have then written to my GP, although I haven't seen the letter.

Will the DWP question my GP about whether I've refused treatment? Will they be able to find out and declare me fit for work even though I had valid reasons for refusing?

I'm sorry about the long post, but I'm panicking about this subject. I know the new guides haven't been posted yet but any clarification would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Last edit: 11 years 2 months ago by Gordon.

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11 years 2 months ago #97943 by Gordon
Replied by Gordon on topic 28th January 2013 changes
Drizzle

None of the changes being introduced at the end of the month mean that you can be found Fit for Work for refusing treatment, this has never been the case and remains so.

There are circumstances, where you can be considered to be receiving treatment when you may not, however, any such assumption must also consider whether it would be reasonable for you to do so, and being unable, for example; to attend therapy due to your anziety and agrophobia, should be perfectly acceptable reaons why you cannot undertake that treatment.

I hope this explains it, but if you have more questions,. please reply to this topic.

Gordon

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11 years 2 months ago #97946 by Drizzle
Replied by Drizzle on topic 28th January 2013 changes
Thanks so much for your speedy reply, Gordon.

Can I ask if you could give more detail on the circumstances where someone may be assumed to be receiving treatment, especially in mental health cases?

Thanks again :)

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11 years 2 months ago #97986 by bro58
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11 years 2 months ago - 11 years 2 months ago #97989 by Gordon
Replied by Gordon on topic 28th January 2013 changes

Drizzle wrote: Thanks so much for your speedy reply, Gordon.

Can I ask if you could give more detail on the circumstances where someone may be assumed to be receiving treatment, especially in mental health cases?

Thanks again :)


The existing ESA Regulations already allow aids and appliances to be considered where their use could be reaonably expected.

It also includes a disqualification clause

157(b) fails without good cause to attend for or submit to medical or other treatment (excluding vaccination, inoculation or major surgery) recommended by a doctor with whom, or a hospital or similar institution with which, the claimant is undergoing medical treatment, which would be likely to remove the limitation on the claimant’s capability for work;


However, I do want to stress that I do not know of a case where this clause has been used, and to be used it must take into account a claimants Good Cause for refusing treatment.

The new ESA regulations will include a change to Regulation 29 that will take into account "the claimant taking medication to manage the claimant’s condition where such medication has been prescribed for the claimant by a registered medical practitioner treating the claimant."

There is nothing in the regulations that is specific to treatment for Mental Health issues.

Gordon

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Last edit: 11 years 2 months ago by Gordon.
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11 years 2 months ago #98903 by carruthers
Replied by carruthers on topic 28th January 2013 changes

Gordon wrote: The new ESA regulations will include a change to Regulation 29 that will take into account "the claimant taking medication to manage the claimant’s condition where such medication has been prescribed for the claimant by a registered medical practitioner treating the claimant."

There has been some talk that this measure may violate the Human Rights Act. It may be contrary to the recognised right to refuse medical treatment. Examples might be both ones of mental health - suppose someone refuses to take lithium to control bi-polar disorder - or physical ones such as someone who refuses to take morphine for pain.

Does, effectively, imposing a financial penalty on someone (by reducing or denying benefit) count as a denial of their right to such a refusal?

Whatever the case it will take a long time before any judgements come through, whilst the clause will be in effect as from now (for most people).

This clause also involves the HCP/DM making a judgement as to how the claimant would be able to work if they were taking the prescribed medication. IMO that counts as a decision beyond their competence, especially if that judgement is made without mentioning it to the claimant. That problem, however, is not new.

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