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Are contested statements at risk of "fraud"?
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11 years 1 month ago - 11 years 1 month ago #101096 by James
Are contested statements at risk of "fraud"? was created by James
In the whole assessment process some facts (eg mental)are undoubtedly subjective and not written in stone.
For example "should"someone who has minor behaviour disturbances maybe gets into a row with passengers now and again on say a crowded bus be labelled as"problematic with the crowds/public"?
No one really knows for sure its all relative.
A major worry of many Claimants is that symptoms so reported could be mis-interpreted as untrue or exxagerated and can be hard to demonstrate to the satisfaction of assessors.....
It must be a very difficult job.
My question what are the statistics for accidental prosecutions for "attempted"fraud as opposed to "discovery after the event"(eg someone with a 'bad back' is seen to be humping sacks of potatoes in the market)
You never hear of cases in the tabloids of unscrupulous people "attempting to play the system".
Say a Claimant fills out the questionaire and provides toatally contradictory information for example.
What does ATOS do with it?
For example "should"someone who has minor behaviour disturbances maybe gets into a row with passengers now and again on say a crowded bus be labelled as"problematic with the crowds/public"?
No one really knows for sure its all relative.
A major worry of many Claimants is that symptoms so reported could be mis-interpreted as untrue or exxagerated and can be hard to demonstrate to the satisfaction of assessors.....
It must be a very difficult job.
My question what are the statistics for accidental prosecutions for "attempted"fraud as opposed to "discovery after the event"(eg someone with a 'bad back' is seen to be humping sacks of potatoes in the market)
You never hear of cases in the tabloids of unscrupulous people "attempting to play the system".
Say a Claimant fills out the questionaire and provides toatally contradictory information for example.
What does ATOS do with it?
Last edit: 11 years 1 month ago by Gordon.
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11 years 1 month ago - 11 years 1 month ago #101107 by Gordon
There are figures for fraud, but I have never seen them broken down beyond the headline figures.
All I can say is that the ESA50 constitutes a legal document in connection to ESA, so claimants should complete it as honestly as possible, failing to do so, can lead to serious ramifications.
Gordon
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Replied by Gordon on topic Are contested statements at risk of "fraud"?
James wrote: In the whole assessment process some facts (eg mental)are undoubtedly subjective and not written in stone.
For example "should"someone who has minor behaviour disturbances maybe gets into a row with passengers now and again on say a crowded bus be labelled as"problematic with the crowds/public"?
No one really knows for sure its all relative.
A major worry of many Claimants is that symptoms so reported could be mis-interpreted as untrue or exxagerated and can be hard to demonstrate to the satisfaction of assessors.....
It must be a very difficult job.
My question what are the statistics for accidental prosecutions for "attempted"fraud as opposed to "discovery after the event"(eg someone with a 'bad back' is seen to be humping sacks of potatoes in the market)
You never hear of cases in the tabloids of unscrupulous people "attempting to play the system".
Say a Claimant fills out the questionaire and provides toatally contradictory information for example.
What does ATOS do with it?
There are figures for fraud, but I have never seen them broken down beyond the headline figures.
All I can say is that the ESA50 constitutes a legal document in connection to ESA, so claimants should complete it as honestly as possible, failing to do so, can lead to serious ramifications.
Gordon
Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems
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