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11 years 2 weeks ago - 11 years 2 weeks ago #101772 by Roidininki
Severe mental illnesses called for Atos medical was created by Roidininki
Long time sufferer of severe mental disorder migrated from IB to ESA, now in SG after appealing against WRAG placing last September due to non attendance of Atos medical. Not informed of this success until February this year and no length of award given .
New ESA50 received mid February 13 and filled in by me ,sent together with GP's letter outlining history over years final diagnosis and current medication .
Now called for medical assessment next week . In my opinion qualifying for a least four descriptors in the mental health section, including the ones about Behaving Appropriately [occasional uncontrolable outburts]and Coping With Social Situations [no]raising more than 15 points enabling a pass for SG.
I would be accompanying to assessment centre but does actually attending it disqualfy the person of the Coping With Social Situations ?
New ESA50 received mid February 13 and filled in by me ,sent together with GP's letter outlining history over years final diagnosis and current medication .
Now called for medical assessment next week . In my opinion qualifying for a least four descriptors in the mental health section, including the ones about Behaving Appropriately [occasional uncontrolable outburts]and Coping With Social Situations [no]raising more than 15 points enabling a pass for SG.
I would be accompanying to assessment centre but does actually attending it disqualfy the person of the Coping With Social Situations ?
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11 years 2 weeks ago - 11 years 2 weeks ago #101775 by Gordon
As you have surmised, there is definitely a conflict of interest in attending a face to face assessment in this situation.
Attending with a companion will certainly help, but will not completely remove the Catch-22.
Have you considered asking for a home assessment, you will need the support of your GP, who will need to state in writing that it is required?
Have a look at the WCA Handbook in the Members Only area, this explains how ATOS assess claimants for these descriptors.
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Roidininki wrote: Long time sufferer of severe mental disorder migrated from IB to ESA, now in SG after appealing against WRAG placing last September due to non attendance of Atos medical. Not informed of this success until February this year and no length of award given .
New ESA50 received mid February 13 and filled in by me ,sent together with GP's letter outlining history over years final diagnosis and current medication .
Now called for medical assessment next week . In my opinion qualifying for a least four descriptors in the mental health section, including the ones about Behaving Appropriately [occasional uncontrolable outburts]and Coping With Social Situations [no]raising more than 15 points enabling a pass for SG.
I would be accompanying to assessment centre but does actually attending it disqualfy the person of the Coping With Social Situations ?
As you have surmised, there is definitely a conflict of interest in attending a face to face assessment in this situation.
Attending with a companion will certainly help, but will not completely remove the Catch-22.
Have you considered asking for a home assessment, you will need the support of your GP, who will need to state in writing that it is required?
Have a look at the WCA Handbook in the Members Only area, this explains how ATOS assess claimants for these descriptors.
Gordon
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11 years 2 weeks ago - 11 years 2 weeks ago #101776 by Roidininki
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Thankyou Gordon yes that's what I thought on , the Catch22 .
Tho looking at the question again just now although by answering No to" Can you meet people you don't know without feeling anxious or scared?" it isn't actually by saying no that you can't do it ?Argueably it's that you can't do it without being anxious or scared?
Just another point, is the person who knows most about the person identified on the ESA50 allowed to speak at the assessment?
Tho looking at the question again just now although by answering No to" Can you meet people you don't know without feeling anxious or scared?" it isn't actually by saying no that you can't do it ?Argueably it's that you can't do it without being anxious or scared?
Just another point, is the person who knows most about the person identified on the ESA50 allowed to speak at the assessment?
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I would recommend that you look at our ESA Claim guide, as the questions on the form do not always accurately reflect the underlying descriptor against which you will be assessed.
A companion is allowed to talk at an assessment, but there are limitations.
There has to be good reason for them to do so, an obvious example would be where the claimant was physically unable to so do, or because they are constrained from doing so due to a mental health problem.
There answer must be relevant and if it is different from the view of claimant then they should explain their reasons for doing so, for example; the claimant is not fully aware of their condition(s).
The assessor may still ignore the comments of a companion.
If the assessor asks the companion to be quiet, then they must accept this, or risk the assessment being terminated to the detriment of the claimant.
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Roidininki wrote: Thankyou Gordon yes that's what I thought on , the Catch22 .
Tho looking at the question again just now although by answering No to" Can you meet people you don't know without feeling anxious or scared?" it isn't actually by saying no that you can't do it ?Argueably it's that you can't do it without being anxious or scared?
Just another point, is the person who knows most about the person identified on the ESA50 allowed to speak at the assessment?
I would recommend that you look at our ESA Claim guide, as the questions on the form do not always accurately reflect the underlying descriptor against which you will be assessed.
A companion is allowed to talk at an assessment, but there are limitations.
There has to be good reason for them to do so, an obvious example would be where the claimant was physically unable to so do, or because they are constrained from doing so due to a mental health problem.
There answer must be relevant and if it is different from the view of claimant then they should explain their reasons for doing so, for example; the claimant is not fully aware of their condition(s).
The assessor may still ignore the comments of a companion.
If the assessor asks the companion to be quiet, then they must accept this, or risk the assessment being terminated to the detriment of the claimant.
Gordon
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