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7 years 6 days ago #187288 by Tabbycat
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Not good news, mandatory reconsideration and then appeal?
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7 years 6 days ago #187289 by Tabbycat
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BTW I'm in Cambridgeshire.
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7 years 6 days ago #187306 by Gordon
The first stage to challenging a Decision is for you to request a Mandatory Reconsideration, this needs to be done in writing to the DWP, within one month of the Decision, to the office that dealt with your claim, have a look at our PIP MR & Appeal guide for details of the process, the PIP area also has template letters that you can use to make the request with.
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/pip
You should contact the DWP for a copy of the assessment report if you have not already done so, I would phone them but again follow up the request in writing. Once you have the assessment report you will have a better understanding of how the DWP Decision Maker has come to their conclusions and will then be able to argue against them.
Your primary task is to show that you meet the criteria, there are many reasons you may have failed, you need to address each of these but don't get bogged down in criticising the assessment report unless you can clearly show that it is incorrect, it is a lot easier to argue the facts of the situation;
"the assessor recorded that I walked 50m, I did but they have failed to document that I had to stop every 10m for a rest due to breathlessness"
than their opinions
"based on my observations of the claimant walking I believe that they can reliably walk more than 200m.
When you have a better idea of the issues with your claim, come back to the forum and we will do our best to help.
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Tabbycat wrote: Not good news, mandatory reconsideration and then appeal?
The first stage to challenging a Decision is for you to request a Mandatory Reconsideration, this needs to be done in writing to the DWP, within one month of the Decision, to the office that dealt with your claim, have a look at our PIP MR & Appeal guide for details of the process, the PIP area also has template letters that you can use to make the request with.
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/pip
You should contact the DWP for a copy of the assessment report if you have not already done so, I would phone them but again follow up the request in writing. Once you have the assessment report you will have a better understanding of how the DWP Decision Maker has come to their conclusions and will then be able to argue against them.
Your primary task is to show that you meet the criteria, there are many reasons you may have failed, you need to address each of these but don't get bogged down in criticising the assessment report unless you can clearly show that it is incorrect, it is a lot easier to argue the facts of the situation;
"the assessor recorded that I walked 50m, I did but they have failed to document that I had to stop every 10m for a rest due to breathlessness"
than their opinions
"based on my observations of the claimant walking I believe that they can reliably walk more than 200m.
When you have a better idea of the issues with your claim, come back to the forum and we will do our best to help.
Gordon
Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems
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6 years 11 months ago #188066 by Tabbycat
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Update on my case - Atos invitation for F2F arrived last Saturday - appointment next Wednesday. From forms being scanned onto the system to F2F will be 11 weeks. I'm in Cambridgeshire and currently receiving Higher Rate Mobility and Care under DLA.
I was hoping for paper assessment, I have sent medical evidence from Rheumatologist, Ankle Surgeon& other surgeons stating, ...erosive RA, C-spine fusion, bilateral hip replacements, continues to be troubled by pain, considerable functional impairment, evidence of chronic deformities with pain and functional impairment....extensive arthritis through the foot, this really does involve all of the joints. She suffers global hind foot pain. Radiographs show involvement from metarsophalangeal joint all the way through to the ankle.
Just how disabled and in how much pain does anyone need to be before they get a home visit or paper assessment? When asked, I said no to using my old DWP clams for this new PIP one as its different criteria and not a level playing field.
42 mile round trip next week for the F2F ......
I was hoping for paper assessment, I have sent medical evidence from Rheumatologist, Ankle Surgeon& other surgeons stating, ...erosive RA, C-spine fusion, bilateral hip replacements, continues to be troubled by pain, considerable functional impairment, evidence of chronic deformities with pain and functional impairment....extensive arthritis through the foot, this really does involve all of the joints. She suffers global hind foot pain. Radiographs show involvement from metarsophalangeal joint all the way through to the ankle.
Just how disabled and in how much pain does anyone need to be before they get a home visit or paper assessment? When asked, I said no to using my old DWP clams for this new PIP one as its different criteria and not a level playing field.
42 mile round trip next week for the F2F ......
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6 years 11 months ago #188684 by Tabbycat
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Had F2F yesterday with a nurse in what appeared to be rented office space. No auto door for wheelchair but receptionist helped hold the door open and suggested husband push my wheelchair in backwards. Nurse asked for ID, showed her invitation letter but she said she didn't want that. Gave her driving licence and was going to show a credit card but she said the licence was enough. At start, told her I had two additional consultant letters to support my evidence, to which she said it's not necessary and I haven't got time to read anything I only have 1 1/2 hours per claimant . I insisted she take the letters and they all sent with my claim. I had to sign a form at the end of the meeting
She didn't do any physical examination and said she wouldn't ask me to do a strength test.
She asked who I lived with at home, was it a house or a bungalow, did I have any pets, what were my hobbies, who did the shopping etc.
I then had to repeat some of the info on my claim form because she wanted me to 'put it into my own words'. The form was completed in my own words anyway! She asked me to explain why I couldn't use a bath, what problems I had with cooking a meal, problems with dressing, basically all of the questions that on the form. She then went on to ask about my mobility, where did I park the car, was it on a driveway or in the road.
At the end, she said my claim would be sent to Atos tomorrow so that they could check it for medical jargon as the DWP are not medically trained and wouldn't' understand it. The claim then goes to DWP DM. When I asked for a copy of the F2F assessment I was told to wait for the decision letter first. She said she had no influence on the decision but thought I should get it. I said I hoped I would be treated fairly unlike my ESA claim which ended in MR, MP involvement and compensation from DWP. She assured me the computer system was different to ESA but could see from her notes I had asked for a MR for ESA.
She seemed human, but I don't trust any if them. Now awaiting decision.
She didn't do any physical examination and said she wouldn't ask me to do a strength test.
She asked who I lived with at home, was it a house or a bungalow, did I have any pets, what were my hobbies, who did the shopping etc.
I then had to repeat some of the info on my claim form because she wanted me to 'put it into my own words'. The form was completed in my own words anyway! She asked me to explain why I couldn't use a bath, what problems I had with cooking a meal, problems with dressing, basically all of the questions that on the form. She then went on to ask about my mobility, where did I park the car, was it on a driveway or in the road.
At the end, she said my claim would be sent to Atos tomorrow so that they could check it for medical jargon as the DWP are not medically trained and wouldn't' understand it. The claim then goes to DWP DM. When I asked for a copy of the F2F assessment I was told to wait for the decision letter first. She said she had no influence on the decision but thought I should get it. I said I hoped I would be treated fairly unlike my ESA claim which ended in MR, MP involvement and compensation from DWP. She assured me the computer system was different to ESA but could see from her notes I had asked for a MR for ESA.
She seemed human, but I don't trust any if them. Now awaiting decision.
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6 years 11 months ago #188724 by Moss
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" post=187155]My transfer from DLA to PIP is current, the PIP form was scanned onto DWP system 14th February 2017. Two weeks later a telephone call came offering a late notice f2f which I declined. I was told that was ok, an appointment would come through post. Still waiting, 8 weeks in total now. How long, generally, are transfers taking at the moment? What I couldn't understand was why was I offered a short notice appointment for a face-to-face, when there must be lots of other clients waiting ahead of me?[/quote]
My wife had a phone call yesterday; asking if they could do a home assessment on Tuesday 9th of May. We agreed . Wife is not looking forward to the assessment; we have no idea what to expect? if any one has been through the home assessment process; and can advise us of how to handle the assessors, We would be grateful. Amy help appreciated.
M
" post=187155]My transfer from DLA to PIP is current, the PIP form was scanned onto DWP system 14th February 2017. Two weeks later a telephone call came offering a late notice f2f which I declined. I was told that was ok, an appointment would come through post. Still waiting, 8 weeks in total now. How long, generally, are transfers taking at the moment? What I couldn't understand was why was I offered a short notice appointment for a face-to-face, when there must be lots of other clients waiting ahead of me?[/quote]
My wife had a phone call yesterday; asking if they could do a home assessment on Tuesday 9th of May. We agreed . Wife is not looking forward to the assessment; we have no idea what to expect? if any one has been through the home assessment process; and can advise us of how to handle the assessors, We would be grateful. Amy help appreciated.
M
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