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12 years 5 months ago #71436 by article
Thank you for the replys guys its very much appreciated.

So if you do get 15 points score on the ESA50 form you go into the support group without having to have a medical?.

I get the fact that you automaticaly qualify for the support group with certain conditions.

Its just from reading yesterday I would have thought that those cases I looked at would have easily scored 15 points or more but oviously didnt, and ive been wondering why on earth not.

One chap even submitted medical evidence from a Psychiatrist which more or less said he'd be flabbergasted if this person was ever fit enought to work again but faild the support group!!!

hence my intial question, what does it take to score an honest 15 mark?.

regards A and thank you again for your speedy and helpfull replys.

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12 years 5 months ago #71444 by mumsgirl
article wrote:


So if you do get 15 points score on the ESA50 form you go into the support group without having to have a medical?.



No article, that's not correct. Last year I sent in my ESA50 and I was called in for an assessment. I scored 15 points and was placed into the WRAG for 6 months.
This year I was reassessed, didn't score any points (well I don;t think I did!) and was placed into Support. I agree with Rachel that the points must be for WRAG. It also looks to me that the majority of folk have to have a medical (either at the centre or at home), except there that been a lot of cases recently of folk being transferred from IB without one.

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12 years 5 months ago #71446 by Gordon
article wrote:

So if you do get 15 points score on the ESA50 form you go into the support group without having to have a medical?.

I'm afraid not. To be put into the Support Group you need to meet one or more of the SG criteria. Scoring 15 points will place you into the WRAG. Whether you have to attend a medical will depend on whether you have provided sufficient information for a Decision to be made without one being held.

I get the fact that you automaticaly qualify for the support group with certain conditions.

There are very limited circumstances where you can automatically qualify for the Support Group. These are covered on page 23 of the Understanding ESA guide.

Its just from reading yesterday I would have thought that those cases I looked at would have easily scored 15 points or more but oviously didnt, and ive been wondering why on earth not.

One chap even submitted medical evidence from a Psychiatrist which more or less said he'd be flabbergasted if this person was ever fit enought to work again but faild the support group!!!

hence my intial question, what does it take to score an honest 15 mark?.

regards A and thank you again for your speedy and helpfull replys.

Unfortunately, never being Fit for Work again, does not mean that you should be in the Support Group.

Scoring a total of 15 points can be achieved, with a good explanation of how you are affected by your conditions, and good supporting evidence.

Scoring 15 points for a single test, is as you would expect, more difficult, but can still be achieved for most of the tests, if you can show that you meet the necessary criteria.

Make sure you read and understand the guides for those tests that you believe you should score points for, and just be honest when you fill the form in.,

Gordon

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12 years 5 months ago #71468 by article
Right guys thankyou for your speedy and clarifying replys. Looks at best I will get into the wrag group but not a certainty.

If That was to be the case and I did make the wrag group am I right in thinking from when I go into that group I have just one year on protetected benefit relalated to contributions and then I am assesed again on income?, which would be a disaster for me as I have a occuptional pension, which would probably rule me out on a means test.

Am I thinking correctly here. ?.

regards A

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12 years 5 months ago #71472 by article
Sorry that should read occupational pension and a small rental income.

regards A

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12 years 5 months ago #71491 by Gordon
article wrote:

Right guys thankyou for your speedy and clarifying replys. Looks at best I will get into the wrag group but not a certainty.

If That was to be the case and I did make the wrag group am I right in thinking from when I go into that group I have just one year on protetected benefit relalated to contributions and then I am assesed again on income?, which would be a disaster for me as I have a occuptional pension, which would probably rule me out on a means test.

Am I thinking correctly here. ?.

regards A

See the following FAQ.

12 Month Limit for ESA(CB)

Gordon

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