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6 years 7 months ago #197242 by J Smith
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i Had a home assessment with Atos.
I requested my report , which goes to a decision maker.
My last assessment, I was awarded Nil Points for mobility descriptor, I appealed and won and received 12 points 3 years ago.
I intend to submit a strong appeal for 4 more points to gain enhanced and not standard Mobility descriptor.
I may be lucky and decision maker gives me 12 points, but I doubt it, what do you think, Gordon?
your advice is respected
This site has been instumntal in support. Thanks Gordon.
On the report the assessor gave me the following, 17 points living component and 8 points for mobility descriptor.
Total points: 17
To be eligible for the daily living component of PIP you need to score:
8-11 points to be awarded the standard rate; or
12 points or more to be awarded the higher rate.
You assessed yourself as being eligible for the enhanced rate of the daily living component of PIP
MOBILITY COMPONENT.
You assessed yourself as scoring the following points for the mobility component of PIP:
11 b. Needs prompting to be able to undertake any journey to avoid overwhelming psychological distress to the claimant. 4 points
12 b. Can stand and then move more than 50 metres but no more than 200 metres, either aided or unaided. 4 points
Total points: 8
To be eligible for the mobility component of PIP you need to score:
8-11 points to be awarded the standard rate; or
12 points or more to be awarded the higher rate.
You assessed yourself as being eligible for the standard rate of the mobility component of PIP.
i Had a home assessment with Atos.
I requested my report , which goes to a decision maker.
My last assessment, I was awarded Nil Points for mobility descriptor, I appealed and won and received 12 points 3 years ago.
I intend to submit a strong appeal for 4 more points to gain enhanced and not standard Mobility descriptor.
I may be lucky and decision maker gives me 12 points, but I doubt it, what do you think, Gordon?
your advice is respected
This site has been instumntal in support. Thanks Gordon.
On the report the assessor gave me the following, 17 points living component and 8 points for mobility descriptor.
Total points: 17
To be eligible for the daily living component of PIP you need to score:
8-11 points to be awarded the standard rate; or
12 points or more to be awarded the higher rate.
You assessed yourself as being eligible for the enhanced rate of the daily living component of PIP
MOBILITY COMPONENT.
You assessed yourself as scoring the following points for the mobility component of PIP:
11 b. Needs prompting to be able to undertake any journey to avoid overwhelming psychological distress to the claimant. 4 points
12 b. Can stand and then move more than 50 metres but no more than 200 metres, either aided or unaided. 4 points
Total points: 8
To be eligible for the mobility component of PIP you need to score:
8-11 points to be awarded the standard rate; or
12 points or more to be awarded the higher rate.
You assessed yourself as being eligible for the standard rate of the mobility component of PIP.
Pip survivor
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6 years 7 months ago #197251 by Gordon
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Just to confirm, you have not had a Decision yet, your comments are based on the assessment report.
Where did you score the 12 points for Mobility at the appeal?
Looking at the Descriptors available.
If you scored 4 points for Going Out then this was from
b. Needs prompting to be able to undertake any journey to avoid overwhelming psychological distress to the claimant. 4 points.
based on this only higher Descriptor you are likely to score for is
e. Cannot undertake any journey because it would cause overwhelming psychological distress to the claimant. 10 points.
Although you can argue that "cannot" does not mean "never", the standard you will need to set will nonetheless be very high, far higher than the normal majority of days, can you show this.
For Moving Around you have scored for
b. Can stand and then move more than 50 metres but no more than 200 metres, either aided or unaided. 4 points.
Any higher Descriptor (with the 4 points for Going Out) will get you the Enhanced award, so you need to show that your walking is limited to 50m or less.
You are not required to walk pain free but any pain that restricts the distance that you can walk should be taken into account.
Specifically for the Moving Around activity, if you are able to walk but you are in severe pain when doing so, then you can argue that your walking is not to a necessary standard and should be disregarded.
The legal test requires you to stand and then move (walk), so if you have problems getting up then you should document these as well.
If you walk slowly then it must take you at least twice the time to cover the 50m as a healthy person would, this could be down to the speed of your walking but could also be the result of having to stop.
You must be able to repeat the distance, so if you could walk it once but not then be able to walk it again within a reasonable timescale then you should be classed as unable to repeat the activity.
I'm afraid I can't tell you how to show your walking is more restricted but things you need to think about is what you can't do, for example what can you walk in your house, how far is the toilet from where you normally sit, things that will count against you are any trips that you make outside, so for example, how do you do your shopping?
You must be able to walk the distance you can, reliably and on the majority of days, both these terms are defined in the PIP Claim guide
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/pip
So you need to explain what you can, how you are limited and why.
Gordon
Just to confirm, you have not had a Decision yet, your comments are based on the assessment report.
Where did you score the 12 points for Mobility at the appeal?
Looking at the Descriptors available.
If you scored 4 points for Going Out then this was from
b. Needs prompting to be able to undertake any journey to avoid overwhelming psychological distress to the claimant. 4 points.
based on this only higher Descriptor you are likely to score for is
e. Cannot undertake any journey because it would cause overwhelming psychological distress to the claimant. 10 points.
Although you can argue that "cannot" does not mean "never", the standard you will need to set will nonetheless be very high, far higher than the normal majority of days, can you show this.
For Moving Around you have scored for
b. Can stand and then move more than 50 metres but no more than 200 metres, either aided or unaided. 4 points.
Any higher Descriptor (with the 4 points for Going Out) will get you the Enhanced award, so you need to show that your walking is limited to 50m or less.
You are not required to walk pain free but any pain that restricts the distance that you can walk should be taken into account.
Specifically for the Moving Around activity, if you are able to walk but you are in severe pain when doing so, then you can argue that your walking is not to a necessary standard and should be disregarded.
The legal test requires you to stand and then move (walk), so if you have problems getting up then you should document these as well.
If you walk slowly then it must take you at least twice the time to cover the 50m as a healthy person would, this could be down to the speed of your walking but could also be the result of having to stop.
You must be able to repeat the distance, so if you could walk it once but not then be able to walk it again within a reasonable timescale then you should be classed as unable to repeat the activity.
I'm afraid I can't tell you how to show your walking is more restricted but things you need to think about is what you can't do, for example what can you walk in your house, how far is the toilet from where you normally sit, things that will count against you are any trips that you make outside, so for example, how do you do your shopping?
You must be able to walk the distance you can, reliably and on the majority of days, both these terms are defined in the PIP Claim guide
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/pip
So you need to explain what you can, how you are limited and why.
Gordon
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