20 MINS FACE TO FACE ASSESSMENT & REPORT SENT TO DWP WITHIN 2 HOURS !!!

Hi everyone, I'm a new member on this site and would like thank everyone on here for their help and input in advance. I have 2 simple question :

I am in receipt of the standard rate of both components of PIP since my first time claim before lockdown. The award was given based on a telephone assessment back in 2020. Yesterday my son took me to a 1st time face to face assessment. We were there for 20 mins max and left at 10am. At 12.05pm, I recieved a text from DWP stating they had recieved the report. How on earth could a report have been compiled and sent in at such a short space of time? Is this a bad sign that I have failed the assessment? Secondly, I am also in receipt of UC as a married couple. This was also claimed at the same time as PIP back in 2020, and again due to lockdown, it was based on a telephone assessment. I was placed in the LCWA category. MY question is, If I am awarded a continuation of PIP, will I still need to have another assessment for UC separately or will the DWP continue to award me UC on the basis of the continuation of PIP? Many thanks for your co operation and look forward to a moderators response to put me out of my misery of the anxious wait.

And acloud129, to follow on what BIS says, if you call for the PA4 and are fobbed off, just say 'thanks, bye' and try again, as you ARE legally entitled to it. As soon as you get it grab a highlighter and check it for any point-losing errors, omissions and sneaky twistings. If you find ones that would lose part or all of what you believe you are entitled to, do this: ASAP write to 'The Decision Maker' at the last address they wrote to you from. Do not use the word 'lie', instead say things such as 'assessor appears to have overlooked xy evidence'/misrepresented my answer' etc. Clearly state this is not an MR but you may submit one later.
Challenging a bad report this way saved us a third Tribunal for our daughter and maintained her previous award.
best of luck with getting the PA4 quickly,
Denby

BIS wrote:

Hi acloud129 I can't tell you why your report was done so quickly, nor would I like to speculate what such a quick turnaround means. You can request a copy of the assessment report from the DWP, 48 hours after the assessment has taken place. It's called a PA4. This will give you an idea of what your award might be and the assessor's thinking. The report still has to go to a decision maker - before you receive the decision letter. I can't tell you whether, when your UC is reviewed, you will be asked for another phone assessment or not. Your PIP award won't have an impact on that decision as, at the current time, the two benefits remain separate. BIS

Many thanks for your reply BIS and Denby. So just to confirm, for all B&W members, the 2 hr window of writing and sending a report bears no relavance to the outcome as was my fear originally. I recieved the PA4 assesment report and having gone through it, the assesor has delibertaly lied and missed out and made up so many things in her report. However, having counted the points against the descriptors, my dad is totalling 14 points for daily living and 12 points for mobility. the recommended award is for 3 years.

I have therefore written to the decision maker asking to to re consider the award period and award 7 years as my fathers multiple complex medical conditions are not likley to improve in the future. I have attached some letters from consultants that confirm medications are unlikely to help as evidence. I have not mentioned or challenged any of the"fictious" reporting by the assessor. As Denby suggested, I stated this is NOT a MR but that I reserve the right to request one should i need it.

Have I done the right thing by asking the DM to reconsider the award period?
If the DM does NOT extend the award when he makes his/her decision, do you reccommend that I should ask for a MR on the basis of asking them to extend the award period? I really dont want to get into the parts of the report that are just damn right lies or fabricated because even though it would score more points, simply because there are enough points to qualify for enhanced rates for both components.
I will keep you posted with any reply I recieve. Thankyou once again BIS and Denby.

denby wrote:

And acloud129, to follow on what BIS says, if you call for the PA4 and are fobbed off, just say 'thanks, bye' and try again, as you ARE legally entitled to it. As soon as you get it grab a highlighter and check it for any point-losing errors, omissions and sneaky twistings. If you find ones that would lose part or all of what you believe you are entitled to, do this: ASAP write to 'The Decision Maker' at the last address they wrote to you from. Do not use the word 'lie', instead say things such as 'assessor appears to have overlooked xy evidence'/misrepresented my answer' etc. Clearly state this is not an MR but you may submit one later. Challenging a bad report this way saved us a third Tribunal for our daughter and maintained her previous award. best of luck with getting the PA4 quickly, Denby

Thankyou so much Denby, I have replied to the earlier post from BIS, if you can read it there and offer any advice, it woul be mcuh apprecited. Thankyou once again.