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TOPIC: Quick decision for PIP renewal: but zero points

Quick decision for PIP renewal: but zero points 11 months 1 week ago #170822

I supported a friend with severe anxiety and depression to his PIP renewal F2F assessment on 28 September 2016.

Yesterday (13 October) he received the Decision Letter dated 7 October (why do they take so long to arrive?) stating he was awarded zero points.

He is in pieces and I am trying to help and support him.

For the record, I made sure all available supporting documentation less than 2 years old accompanied the renewal form as its states, along with his previous PIP award letter granting him Higher Living rate and without a F2F.

Given the postal delay, there remains only 3 weeks to submit a letter requesting MR.

Question: Is it possible to make more than one SAR?

I am thinking if at this stage only the PIP medical form PA4 is requested, there's a slender chance it may arrive in time to construct a reasoned argument against the DM's findings which omitted the help and prompting from other people, as well as 'reliably, reasonably, regularly' etc.

His DWP records will contain potentially very supportive ESA documents, but these are more than two years old. At that time, the ESA assessor was so concerned about his mental state that she declared she would make the WCA as brief as possible and then send an urgent fax to his doctor recommending assessment and treatment.

Thank in advance for feedback, and all the best to everyone out there struggling to fight when you're down. I'm just starting to take in that I now have a PIP award after 15 months of stress.

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Quick decision for PIP renewal: but zero points 11 months 1 week ago #170830

Ivyfox

It shouldn't be necessary to issue a SAR for the assessment report, your friend should be able to request a copy from the DWP office that dealt with her claim either by phoning or writing, it normally takes 7-10 days to arrive.

They will need to issue a SAR for the ESA documents as these are likely to be in offsite storage if they still exist, the DWP routinely destroy old documents, but I would not expect too much of these reports, given their age, that they are for ESA and the fact that they deal with mental health issues, I would not expect them to carry much weight, even at a Tribunal and certainly not for an MR. They really need up to date statement about these issues.

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Quick decision for PIP renewal: but zero points 5 months 1 week ago #187003

I helped my friend to apply for MR, but it had to be done without the PA4 as it didn't arrive in time.

As I expected, it was rejected with 0 points.

Since then, I helped him to lodge an appeal to PIP Tribunal which was acknowledged in December 2016. His mental health has deteriorated further, due to housing issues. When a Hearing date was given, he asked me to write a letter asking for a 'paper hearing' on the grounds that appearing in person would be severely detrimental to his already fragile mental health. I wrote and enclosed a witness statement, explaining how his illness affects him.

I know - from my own experience - that a Tribunal Decision is made at or very shortly after an oral hearing. Does anyone know how soon he might expect a Decision after a 'paper hearing' please?

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Quick decision for PIP renewal: but zero points 5 months 1 week ago #187023

ivyfox

Paper hearings are heard when there are holes in the panel's schedule, so there is no way to predict when this might happen, however, they are typically heard quicker than an Oral hearing.

Gordon
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