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5 years 11 months ago #212704 by Ree
Car use and pip application was created by Ree
Hi, I have pip query so regarding mobility so I am applying and have difficulty with public transport, so driving is the only thing that I can rely on.

So for example my current journey to work involves me driving to a station I can park at, from there I get a direct train and have a seat, I do that journey because it is less packed and is more peaceful although it's not the quickest it's the least strenuous and it depends largely on my car being able to get me to the station where I can park close and for no charge.

If I didn't have my car I wouldn't be able to get to work at all as the journey would be too strenuous for me both mentally and physically. I also can't drive to work with my car as the streets around are permit holders only so I'd have nowhere to park as that would be my first choice.

My question comes around the car, my. Ar helps me not use to much energy that physically walking and public transport would make me use,

Mentally part of my condition gives me extreme irritability, sensitivity to light, headaches etc, so my car helps me to avoid those. Driving doesn't solve all the problems as I still get tired and need to rest before and whilst driving.

The below is something I was going to use as an answer for the 13 section of the form. Am I on the right lines? That's basically the difficulty I get.

Extreme Irritability / sensitivity to light / sound etc

Because of my condition, I get extremely irritable when I have my headaches and brain fog and nausea or in pain.so I find sounds, people moving etc very irritating. For example at the doctors today a lady was playing with a baby making baby noises continuously and it was really irritating me and felt like the sound was extra heightened in my ear and making my headache worse, so due to this I had to leave and go back to my car, the receptionist gave me about 10 mins to wait, so after that I went back. When these scenarios happen on the train I try to use my headphones but because my irritability is strong even music from my headphones irritate me and just the headphones in themselves don't block out the noise so I'd either have to move away from the irritation or get off the train. Which can be very difficult on busy trains especially due to the fatigue etc as then me getting away from the irritation then affects my fatigue.

A bright train carriage would also cause me distress due to the light sensitivity.

Any advice would help, sorry if it is confusing and all over the place, I am really struggling with the brain fog today.

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5 years 11 months ago - 5 years 11 months ago #212729 by Gordon
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Ruth

Welcome to the forum, you might want to have a look at the following FAQ which explain where everything is

Welcome to Benefits and Work

I'm afraid the problems you describe are unlikely to help you score points for PIP Mobility, have you looked at our PIP Claim guide?

www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/pip

Gordon

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5 years 11 months ago #212745 by Ree
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Hi,

It would've been nice for you to explain why.
As I have spoken to 2 advice lines today who have said my answer is on the right lines for question 13.

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5 years 11 months ago #212747 by Gordon
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Ruth wrote: Hi,

It would've been nice for you to explain why.
As I have spoken to 2 advice lines today who have said my answer is on the right lines for question 13.


Because I don't believe you are addressing the criteria, that's why I suggested you look at our PIP Claim guide to understand what you need to show.

The Going Out activity looks at three things.

Planning a route - this is primarily a cognitive or sensory (e.g. blindness) activity. You are being asked about the problems you would have with working out how to get from one place to another, you do not need to be able to follow the route that you are planning.

Undertaking a Journey - this is do with mental health issues such as agoraphobia and social anxiety and is concerned with you leaving the house to go somewhere, they will be interested in the things that stop you doing this. You need to show that you would suffer "overwhelming psychological distress" to meet the criteria.

Following a route - This activity about the problems you would have navigating a route. So are there problems cognitive, sensory or mental health issues that would prevent you from doing this? This is different from undertaking a journey, in fact if you cannot undertake a journey then you will struggle to score points for following one.

Gordon

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5 years 11 months ago #212759 by Ree
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Hi,

I did consult the guide when drafting my answer and the advice on the citizens advice website for the question.

My answer for 13a would be that due to the cognitive impairment caused by my condition means that I find it hard to cope with large crowds or loud noises and
you find it hard to cope with unexpected changes to a journey - for example, roadworks or diversions and I only attempt a journey during quiet times of the day when there's less traffic on the road.

I can give detailed examples of how I can't do the above.

Was that not detailed in the above example slightly?

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5 years 11 months ago #212779 by Gordon
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Ruth

I'm afraid the overwhelming impression I got from your first post was that you can undertake a journey and that you are able to follow a route

Many of the problems that you mention are physical and you won't score for these directly.

Although you describe problem situations, your post suggests that you have found ways to cope with these and are able to continue with the journey.

Based on feedback from the forum, brain fog is not going to be treated as cognitive issue.

I want to make it clear that I am not saying that you do not meet the criteria, all I can go on is what you post but I do think you need to go back to the criteria to understand how you need to describe your problems.

Gordon

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