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11 years 1 month ago #100035 by Andrew Roberts
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If I did no work 1 week then earned £40 the following week then zero for the last two weeks (in the month) will this be ok because I wont have earned over £80 in the month. If your not an employee its a case of doing some work when it is required.
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11 years 1 month ago - 11 years 1 month ago #100039 by bro58
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11 years 1 month ago #100040 by Gordon
I am going to start my reply with a warning, failing to adhere to the PW rules can and likely will result in your ESA claim being closed, so you whould not proceed without written confirmation from the DWP that you are still operating within the rules for PW.
It may be possible to average your earnings over a period, this is normally used for people on odd shift patterns, but it may still be applicable to someone who's conditon limits when they work, but you need to be aware that the £20 is absolute value, earning an average of £20.01 within an agreed period could endanger your claim.
Some expenses are allowable, but you would need to confirm that those you mention in your post are allowable and under what conditions.
In both cases, you may be required to keep and produce accurate records, so you need to factor this in to any decision you make.
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Replied by Gordon on topic Permitted work
Towser 297 wrote: Yes I am on DLA middle rate for one and lower rate for the other. Ok, I am trying hard to work on getting better and as my 52 weeks has been used, it looks like I can earn £20 per week. I just wanted to know.
1) Well some weeks I am much worse than others. Some days I cant leave the bed. On days where things are a bit more manageable, I would like to try doing some work. I am aware that if I have used up my 52 weeks then I can earn £20 per week. If I am having a better week, with support of my partner, I may be able to try some more work and earn a bit more money. If I go over the £20 slightly, what would they do if I tell them? Would they knock money off my ESA (income based).
2) If its £20 per week, can I take into account any expenses I have. I want to do a bit of gardening for a couple of my neighbours. The equipment uses petrol, wear and tear etc.
Thanks.
I am going to start my reply with a warning, failing to adhere to the PW rules can and likely will result in your ESA claim being closed, so you whould not proceed without written confirmation from the DWP that you are still operating within the rules for PW.
It may be possible to average your earnings over a period, this is normally used for people on odd shift patterns, but it may still be applicable to someone who's conditon limits when they work, but you need to be aware that the £20 is absolute value, earning an average of £20.01 within an agreed period could endanger your claim.
Some expenses are allowable, but you would need to confirm that those you mention in your post are allowable and under what conditions.
In both cases, you may be required to keep and produce accurate records, so you need to factor this in to any decision you make.
Gordon
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11 years 1 month ago - 11 years 1 month ago #100044 by Andrew Roberts
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When you refer to an agreed period, who decides on that agreed period? Would it be my benefit adviser? How do I find out this agreed period.
So if I want to go ahead and do this, how do I start? Do I just sent them a letter, because the DWP never reply to anything you send them. Not sure what the next step would be.
Sorry about all the questions, but because I have OCD, I feel I have to do everything perfectly as I don't want to get into any trouble.
ALso, as my partner will be out of work, can we claim council tax benefit online or do I have to get a form. It is Tameside Council Manchester.
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So if I want to go ahead and do this, how do I start? Do I just sent them a letter, because the DWP never reply to anything you send them. Not sure what the next step would be.
Sorry about all the questions, but because I have OCD, I feel I have to do everything perfectly as I don't want to get into any trouble.
ALso, as my partner will be out of work, can we claim council tax benefit online or do I have to get a form. It is Tameside Council Manchester.
Thanks.
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11 years 1 month ago #100057 by Gordon
You should be involved in deciding the period, but as with all things related to benefits, the final decision lies with the DWP.
I would draft a letter explaining your circumstances and what you are proposing and send it to your local DWP office, it is unlikely that they will reply immediately, these things often take weeks to resolve
With regard Council Tax Benefit, the DWP may have already contacted your Local Authority, but I would do so yourself, to ensure that the claim is lodged and progressed.
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Replied by Gordon on topic Permitted work
Towser 297 wrote: When you refer to an agreed period, who decides on that agreed period? Would it be my benefit adviser? How do I find out this agreed period.
So if I want to go ahead and do this, how do I start? Do I just sent them a letter, because the DWP never reply to anything you send them. Not sure what the next step would be.
Sorry about all the questions, but because I have OCD, I feel I have to do everything perfectly as I don't want to get into any trouble.
ALso, as my partner will be out of work, can we claim council tax benefit online or do I have to get a form. It is Tameside Council Manchester.
Thanks.
You should be involved in deciding the period, but as with all things related to benefits, the final decision lies with the DWP.
I would draft a letter explaining your circumstances and what you are proposing and send it to your local DWP office, it is unlikely that they will reply immediately, these things often take weeks to resolve
With regard Council Tax Benefit, the DWP may have already contacted your Local Authority, but I would do so yourself, to ensure that the claim is lodged and progressed.
Gordon
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11 years 1 month ago - 11 years 1 month ago #100075 by Andrew Roberts
Replied by Andrew Roberts on topic Permitted work
My circumstances are now a little different.
I mentioned that my girlfriend has been made redundant but as her work contract says they have to give three months notice because she has been there so long, she has to stay on garden leave for 3 months and gets full pay (just found out). At the end of the three months, she then gets her redundancy. This mean therefore, I will have to stay on Contribution ESA for another three months unless of course she gets another job in the mean time.
You mentioned in one message that failing to adhere to the PW rules it is likely that the ESA claim will be closed, but also mentioned that because there is no ongoing payment, it is difficult to see how the DWP can argue against it. (e.g earning a little more than £20)
Do you suggest that I ask my personal ESA adviser when I see him and get him to deal with it or should I write to the DWP and ask them? If I write to the DWP who do I put it for the attention of as most of my letters never reach them or get lost?
Not sure what to do here. If I earned more than £20 (telling them of course) is the worst they can do close my ESA claim (this wouldn’t be a problem because I get nothing from it anyway). I just wouldn’t want to lose the appeal I have going for the Support Group (could this happen?)
I just need to know what I should do because there are so many alternatives and I am so confused how the whole system works. Its making me really poorly and I find the DWP very unhelpful and very disorganised. I just don’t know what to do for the best. I believe that trying to do some work even if it is a tiny bit is the best way to aid my recovery.
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Andy.
I mentioned that my girlfriend has been made redundant but as her work contract says they have to give three months notice because she has been there so long, she has to stay on garden leave for 3 months and gets full pay (just found out). At the end of the three months, she then gets her redundancy. This mean therefore, I will have to stay on Contribution ESA for another three months unless of course she gets another job in the mean time.
You mentioned in one message that failing to adhere to the PW rules it is likely that the ESA claim will be closed, but also mentioned that because there is no ongoing payment, it is difficult to see how the DWP can argue against it. (e.g earning a little more than £20)
Do you suggest that I ask my personal ESA adviser when I see him and get him to deal with it or should I write to the DWP and ask them? If I write to the DWP who do I put it for the attention of as most of my letters never reach them or get lost?
Not sure what to do here. If I earned more than £20 (telling them of course) is the worst they can do close my ESA claim (this wouldn’t be a problem because I get nothing from it anyway). I just wouldn’t want to lose the appeal I have going for the Support Group (could this happen?)
I just need to know what I should do because there are so many alternatives and I am so confused how the whole system works. Its making me really poorly and I find the DWP very unhelpful and very disorganised. I just don’t know what to do for the best. I believe that trying to do some work even if it is a tiny bit is the best way to aid my recovery.
Thanks
Andy.
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