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3 years 4 months ago #265683 by Mystery1997
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I received it a few days ago however due to life stressors I haven't had the chance to properly look at it—and I still don't really— however there are some concerns I have. Whilst I still receive my enhanced for daily living and standard for mobility, I feel they scored me severely low on most sections considering what I wrote, and that what's written in this report contradicts what I wrote. I'm going to try to be succinct as possible and will only talk about the sections I have issues with.
For preparing food - I wrote that I have contamination OCD so don't buy fresh fruit and vegetables because I can't clean them in a way that'd would make me feel it's safe to eat. This reduces the types of foods I eat and has lead to nutritional deficiencies and digestive issues. I also wrote that I rarely cook and mainly rely on microwave and oven foods. I scored 2 points.
For eating and drinking I wrote that I have an eating disorder know as Emotional Food Avoidance Disorder, which means that any time I feel any strong emotion or am highly stimulated—anxious, depressed, angry, ect.— I completely lose my appetite and if I try to force myself to eat I end up vomitting. If I'm very depressed/anxious this can last for hours or days. I scored 4 points. I feel that this is okay; would like to hear other opinions.
For communicating verbally I wrote that because of my anxiety and Borderline Personality Disorder I struggle to talk to people and will always try to write/email/do things online where possible. I really have to motivate myself to get the courage to speak to people and when I do have to talk to people my anxiety ends up making me say complete gibberish or my voice will start wavering or I'll speak too quietly, which more often then not aggregates people, which in turn causes a very big emotional reaction because of my BPD. My anxiety also makes it hard for me to tell doctors/therapists personal information about myself which means I often don't get the proper help I need. My BPD in general causes me to get agitated very quickly with people and I end up shouting and swearing. I scored 0 points for this section. Not happy about that at all.
For the mixing with others/engaging with people face to face section I wrote that my various mental health issues—Body Dysmorphia, OCD, Borderline Personality Disorder, ARFID, Depression, Social Anxiety— makes it very difficult to engage with others and they've all caused a very big strain on past and present interpersonal relationships.
My BPD causes me to act very impulsively, cry at inappropriate times and violently/aggressively when distressed of when I feel that people are antagonising me, which is often because I'm a very paranoid and sensitive person in general. I gave examples of when my BPD has caused me problems in public.
I wrote that I don't go to any social places e.g., clubs, bars, parks, gatherings, parties etc. I struggle with boundaries and appropriateness. I’ve often offended and irritated people without meaning to. I tend to overshare personal information at times which people find uncomfortable, off-putting or disturbing. In periods of high anxiety and stress I can repeatedly call and message people which they’ve described as annoying and I’ve had people threaten to block me and/or block me.
I wrote that I currently don't have any friends because of my mental health issues, particularly my BPD, and haven't for years. I don't have any social media such as Twitter, Facebook, Snapchat etc. Outside of family, of whom I have an estranged relationship with because of my issues, and mental health workers I don't speak to other people regularly. My main and only source of social interaction comes from speaking to people online and because of my BPD I regularly get into arguments and have had very bad situations happen with my personal information and pictures because I of my issues with boundaries.
I scored 2 points for that section after writing all of that and what I've written up above was an abbreviation. I also gave examples.
Whilst I do still have my entitlement I'm thinking about the future and how future reviews will go if I'm being scored so low right now, especially on the things that significantly impair my quality of life.
I did write previously that I'm at university; and these issues are all still there. It's not my plan to be on PIP or benefits my entire life but I don't want my efforts in trying to create a normal life for myself to be used against me. I support myself and live alone. (Don't live with family and can't because of my issues.)
The first year at university isn't too intense but the second and third year are a bit more hands on, and I was told that we're going to have to do work experience. Which...the whole point of going to university is to come out of it someone that's employable. I want to to engage with the course. I don't want to sacrifice my progress for the sake of this benefit because it will be a waste of 3 years and a whole load of pointless debt.
It's a very difficult position to be and even harder to explain in a form. Despite my struggles I often force myself to do things, and it often doesn't go well because of my issues but I still have to do it because I only have myself to depend on.
Is it worth it to write to the DWP about it? Do they take previous reviews into consideration? I completely lost the documents from my initial form so can't even use it as a point of comparison. This is my second form. Any advice will help.
For preparing food - I wrote that I have contamination OCD so don't buy fresh fruit and vegetables because I can't clean them in a way that'd would make me feel it's safe to eat. This reduces the types of foods I eat and has lead to nutritional deficiencies and digestive issues. I also wrote that I rarely cook and mainly rely on microwave and oven foods. I scored 2 points.
For eating and drinking I wrote that I have an eating disorder know as Emotional Food Avoidance Disorder, which means that any time I feel any strong emotion or am highly stimulated—anxious, depressed, angry, ect.— I completely lose my appetite and if I try to force myself to eat I end up vomitting. If I'm very depressed/anxious this can last for hours or days. I scored 4 points. I feel that this is okay; would like to hear other opinions.
For communicating verbally I wrote that because of my anxiety and Borderline Personality Disorder I struggle to talk to people and will always try to write/email/do things online where possible. I really have to motivate myself to get the courage to speak to people and when I do have to talk to people my anxiety ends up making me say complete gibberish or my voice will start wavering or I'll speak too quietly, which more often then not aggregates people, which in turn causes a very big emotional reaction because of my BPD. My anxiety also makes it hard for me to tell doctors/therapists personal information about myself which means I often don't get the proper help I need. My BPD in general causes me to get agitated very quickly with people and I end up shouting and swearing. I scored 0 points for this section. Not happy about that at all.
For the mixing with others/engaging with people face to face section I wrote that my various mental health issues—Body Dysmorphia, OCD, Borderline Personality Disorder, ARFID, Depression, Social Anxiety— makes it very difficult to engage with others and they've all caused a very big strain on past and present interpersonal relationships.
My BPD causes me to act very impulsively, cry at inappropriate times and violently/aggressively when distressed of when I feel that people are antagonising me, which is often because I'm a very paranoid and sensitive person in general. I gave examples of when my BPD has caused me problems in public.
I wrote that I don't go to any social places e.g., clubs, bars, parks, gatherings, parties etc. I struggle with boundaries and appropriateness. I’ve often offended and irritated people without meaning to. I tend to overshare personal information at times which people find uncomfortable, off-putting or disturbing. In periods of high anxiety and stress I can repeatedly call and message people which they’ve described as annoying and I’ve had people threaten to block me and/or block me.
I wrote that I currently don't have any friends because of my mental health issues, particularly my BPD, and haven't for years. I don't have any social media such as Twitter, Facebook, Snapchat etc. Outside of family, of whom I have an estranged relationship with because of my issues, and mental health workers I don't speak to other people regularly. My main and only source of social interaction comes from speaking to people online and because of my BPD I regularly get into arguments and have had very bad situations happen with my personal information and pictures because I of my issues with boundaries.
I scored 2 points for that section after writing all of that and what I've written up above was an abbreviation. I also gave examples.
Whilst I do still have my entitlement I'm thinking about the future and how future reviews will go if I'm being scored so low right now, especially on the things that significantly impair my quality of life.
I did write previously that I'm at university; and these issues are all still there. It's not my plan to be on PIP or benefits my entire life but I don't want my efforts in trying to create a normal life for myself to be used against me. I support myself and live alone. (Don't live with family and can't because of my issues.)
The first year at university isn't too intense but the second and third year are a bit more hands on, and I was told that we're going to have to do work experience. Which...the whole point of going to university is to come out of it someone that's employable. I want to to engage with the course. I don't want to sacrifice my progress for the sake of this benefit because it will be a waste of 3 years and a whole load of pointless debt.
It's a very difficult position to be and even harder to explain in a form. Despite my struggles I often force myself to do things, and it often doesn't go well because of my issues but I still have to do it because I only have myself to depend on.
Is it worth it to write to the DWP about it? Do they take previous reviews into consideration? I completely lost the documents from my initial form so can't even use it as a point of comparison. This is my second form. Any advice will help.
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Hi Mystery1997
We can't tell you what to do here. It is a decision you will have to make yourself. We can't comment on whether you should have received higher points because we don't know you.
You sound as if you are happy with your award but not happy with the report. This often happens and many claimants in a similar position say nothing because they don't want to deal with the DWP and they just wait until the next review.
You could write to the DWP and ask for a Mandatory Reconsideration - but you may just get the same award with no changes to the number of points. You may get the same award with an increase in points. There is a small risk that your award could be lowered (but it is a very small risk).
You could just write to the DWP and say that you are satisfied with your award but you disagree with what was said and ask them to add your letter to your records.
I think you may find that some people would recommend just leaving it and enjoying your award, but in truth, you have to do what feels right for you. Even if they come back with more points this time, it doesn't mean the next assessor will review you in the same way.
BIS
We can't tell you what to do here. It is a decision you will have to make yourself. We can't comment on whether you should have received higher points because we don't know you.
You sound as if you are happy with your award but not happy with the report. This often happens and many claimants in a similar position say nothing because they don't want to deal with the DWP and they just wait until the next review.
You could write to the DWP and ask for a Mandatory Reconsideration - but you may just get the same award with no changes to the number of points. You may get the same award with an increase in points. There is a small risk that your award could be lowered (but it is a very small risk).
You could just write to the DWP and say that you are satisfied with your award but you disagree with what was said and ask them to add your letter to your records.
I think you may find that some people would recommend just leaving it and enjoying your award, but in truth, you have to do what feels right for you. Even if they come back with more points this time, it doesn't mean the next assessor will review you in the same way.
BIS
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