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3 years 2 months ago #266416 by Rosy
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Hello, this is a simple question about the renewal form. I am using separate sheets of paper, but I am writing way too much.
I'm just wondering if anyone else does this? It seems wrong to be writing so much but it's partly that I am so exhausted at the moment that I can't get my information concise or in any sort of order.
Will it be ok like that?
I've had 2 extensions and I'm struggling with this and feeling so overwhelmed with all the things I have to do generally at the moment. I don't know whether to call and see if they can give another extension or whether to just send in my sprawl. I don't like the thought of sending it in like that though.
any thoughts on this would help thanks
I'm just wondering if anyone else does this? It seems wrong to be writing so much but it's partly that I am so exhausted at the moment that I can't get my information concise or in any sort of order.
Will it be ok like that?
I've had 2 extensions and I'm struggling with this and feeling so overwhelmed with all the things I have to do generally at the moment. I don't know whether to call and see if they can give another extension or whether to just send in my sprawl. I don't like the thought of sending it in like that though.
any thoughts on this would help thanks
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3 years 2 months ago #266422 by BIS
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Hi Rosy
You have to do what feels right for you in the current circumstances. You don't have to write lots of information on the review form, but plenty of people do because they are worried that the assessors won't look back at past information. Try to keep it as succinct as possible, but try not to stress about it. This is not an exam. Ask yourself whether you are well enough to improve on it. If the answer is no - just send it in. People often add a line at the end of their evidence saying they are too unwell to do anything more than what they have sent in. If you're concerned - check out our advice in the PIP guide
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/pip
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You have to do what feels right for you in the current circumstances. You don't have to write lots of information on the review form, but plenty of people do because they are worried that the assessors won't look back at past information. Try to keep it as succinct as possible, but try not to stress about it. This is not an exam. Ask yourself whether you are well enough to improve on it. If the answer is no - just send it in. People often add a line at the end of their evidence saying they are too unwell to do anything more than what they have sent in. If you're concerned - check out our advice in the PIP guide
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/pip
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3 years 2 months ago #266434 by denby
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Hi Rosy, five reactions.
One, be sure every page has your name and NI No at the top. I achieve this and next bit by typing them on the bottom of a blank sheet, fold this over narrowly and put it over each sheet you want to send, photocopy and send in the copies which thereby have it on top edge without you doing endless typing etc, and can use it for doctors' letters too.
Two, no matter how much you write keep, a copy of every single bit, do not skimp.
Three, include written request that if they need to give you a phone or face to face assessment you WILL want it to be recorded.
Four, send recorded delivery or similar and keep tracking evidence in your file.
Five, as soon as the assessment is 48 hours past, call requesting the PA4 report and get back on here if the least unhappy with it.
Very much hoping that helps useful focus for you, brain fog can be so miserable,
Denby
One, be sure every page has your name and NI No at the top. I achieve this and next bit by typing them on the bottom of a blank sheet, fold this over narrowly and put it over each sheet you want to send, photocopy and send in the copies which thereby have it on top edge without you doing endless typing etc, and can use it for doctors' letters too.
Two, no matter how much you write keep, a copy of every single bit, do not skimp.
Three, include written request that if they need to give you a phone or face to face assessment you WILL want it to be recorded.
Four, send recorded delivery or similar and keep tracking evidence in your file.
Five, as soon as the assessment is 48 hours past, call requesting the PA4 report and get back on here if the least unhappy with it.
Very much hoping that helps useful focus for you, brain fog can be so miserable,
Denby
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3 years 2 months ago #266435 by phrank
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Hi Rosy,
I used to write reams and reams, thinking that there can't possibly be such a thing as too much information - and that more is better than less.
I eventually found this approach, although I have always got there in the end with past reviews, made it a really long-winded journey and always used to go to MR.
After reading the guides thoroughly and taking advice from the forum, I have found that a much shortened approach (at least for me) works better.
My approach is to initially map things out that I am going to say then, (this is where I have made myself be ruthless) get rid of anything superfluous, long-winded, repetitive.....any wording that is not needed without losing the impact.
I used to write semi-professionaly and leaving out anything that diverts attention from that what you are trying to say makes it hard work for the reader to digest. Make a 'friend' of the reader.
Make it thorough, but as easier a read as you can is my advice. The asssessor or decision maker will at least take more notice than they would with a load of waffle that I used to write.
I hope this helps.
Regards,
Phrank.
I used to write reams and reams, thinking that there can't possibly be such a thing as too much information - and that more is better than less.
I eventually found this approach, although I have always got there in the end with past reviews, made it a really long-winded journey and always used to go to MR.
After reading the guides thoroughly and taking advice from the forum, I have found that a much shortened approach (at least for me) works better.
My approach is to initially map things out that I am going to say then, (this is where I have made myself be ruthless) get rid of anything superfluous, long-winded, repetitive.....any wording that is not needed without losing the impact.
I used to write semi-professionaly and leaving out anything that diverts attention from that what you are trying to say makes it hard work for the reader to digest. Make a 'friend' of the reader.
Make it thorough, but as easier a read as you can is my advice. The asssessor or decision maker will at least take more notice than they would with a load of waffle that I used to write.
I hope this helps.
Regards,
Phrank.
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3 years 2 months ago #266439 by denby
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Hi Rosy and Phrank, and anyone else concerned. A good tactic is to keep sentences short. This may sometimes require repeating parts, but will be easier for DWP/assessment staff to read. Many such staff will not have the intellect to understand multi-section [clause] sentences properly. Top intellect [high IQ] people are mostly likely to be in other jobs I believe. Also staff may be reading your important info in a badly lit, noisy office, not like a quiet room at home.
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3 years 2 months ago #266443 by robby
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Hi Rosy,
when i prepared and filled in my last PIP form, i would go to bed at 10pm and then because of nervous energy, be back on my lap top all through the night and all day for weeks on end, processing and printing off endless amounts of information and in the end, i felt the whole thing was a right mess and it caused me to lose money in the end. I sent in a parcel rather than a claim pack. You must do what you think is right for you, but when i have to do this again, i think less would be best for me and straight to the point would be better. The person who read my 60,000 words must have binned most of what i sent in, because most of it had vanished at a later date. Hope this helps.
when i prepared and filled in my last PIP form, i would go to bed at 10pm and then because of nervous energy, be back on my lap top all through the night and all day for weeks on end, processing and printing off endless amounts of information and in the end, i felt the whole thing was a right mess and it caused me to lose money in the end. I sent in a parcel rather than a claim pack. You must do what you think is right for you, but when i have to do this again, i think less would be best for me and straight to the point would be better. The person who read my 60,000 words must have binned most of what i sent in, because most of it had vanished at a later date. Hope this helps.
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