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2 years 9 months ago #269424 by Jenny Joyce
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Hi,
I have a disabled son, who has an Education, health & social care plan, so has had a lot of support at school.
He receives PIP and is currently at college. At the beginning of June, he turns 20 and I will not longer be able to claim tax credits and child benefit for him.
I believe we can apply for Universal credit and then push for him to be assessed for limited capacity for work, but I have no idea - Howe we do this. Obviously I can look up how to claim universal credit, but it’s getting him the ‘limited capacity for work’, that I have no idea about?
Please can someone advise?
Thank you in anticipation
I have a disabled son, who has an Education, health & social care plan, so has had a lot of support at school.
He receives PIP and is currently at college. At the beginning of June, he turns 20 and I will not longer be able to claim tax credits and child benefit for him.
I believe we can apply for Universal credit and then push for him to be assessed for limited capacity for work, but I have no idea - Howe we do this. Obviously I can look up how to claim universal credit, but it’s getting him the ‘limited capacity for work’, that I have no idea about?
Please can someone advise?
Thank you in anticipation
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2 years 9 months ago #269425 by Gary
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Replied by Gary on topic Query about disabled child, going to adult benefits
Hi Jenny
Do you know that your personal details are showing. How to change your details
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help.
Before you start your son's claim, he need to create an account which asks some basic questions about him, such as his postcode and date of birth. The account will be connected to an email address, so he will need an email address before applying.
His claim then has a number of steps
~ he has to providing all of the information needed for his claim.
~ Verifying his identity - this is done via the government 'Verify' system or can be done in a Jobcentre if he has problems online. ~ he will need some proof of identity such as a passport, driving licence or bank card.
~ Submit claim - he will be given details of his responsibilities and likely payment.
Check outthe following website to help you claim Universal Credit, www.entitledto.co.uk/help/Making-an-onli...aim-Universal-Credit
To claim LCWRA once a UC account has been set up, you need to give your son's workcoach a 'fit note' which he needs to obtain from his doctor. Your son will then be sent a work capability assessment form called a UC50. He will then be placed in the assessment phase.
The UC50 is divided into two halves; activities 1-10 are for physical issues and 11-17 are for mental health ones, you can receive a full award for either half.
Our UC/ESA Claim guide explains the criteria you are being assessed against and how to explain your limitations. See
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/esa1
If you have more questions then please return to the forum and we will do our best to help.
Gary
Do you know that your personal details are showing. How to change your details
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help.
Before you start your son's claim, he need to create an account which asks some basic questions about him, such as his postcode and date of birth. The account will be connected to an email address, so he will need an email address before applying.
His claim then has a number of steps
~ he has to providing all of the information needed for his claim.
~ Verifying his identity - this is done via the government 'Verify' system or can be done in a Jobcentre if he has problems online. ~ he will need some proof of identity such as a passport, driving licence or bank card.
~ Submit claim - he will be given details of his responsibilities and likely payment.
Check outthe following website to help you claim Universal Credit, www.entitledto.co.uk/help/Making-an-onli...aim-Universal-Credit
To claim LCWRA once a UC account has been set up, you need to give your son's workcoach a 'fit note' which he needs to obtain from his doctor. Your son will then be sent a work capability assessment form called a UC50. He will then be placed in the assessment phase.
The UC50 is divided into two halves; activities 1-10 are for physical issues and 11-17 are for mental health ones, you can receive a full award for either half.
Our UC/ESA Claim guide explains the criteria you are being assessed against and how to explain your limitations. See
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/esa1
If you have more questions then please return to the forum and we will do our best to help.
Gary
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2 years 9 months ago #269430 by Jenny Joyce
Replied by Jenny Joyce on topic Query about disabled child, going to adult benefits
Hi Gary,
Thanks for this, unfortunately it says to change my user name, I need to contact the site and ask them to do it. I can change other details, could you do this for me, I am happy to be called JJ and then a number after my name?
Thank you for this. How do I explain to doctors about needing a fit note and are they usually okay at producing them. I had read something about needing doctors notes, but it seems a strange thing to have to do, once a disabled child becomes an adult, but obviously will do what I need to do.
Will showing his Education, health & social care plan to work coach help. Although I note, that education always write them in a way that focuses mainly on his positives.
Thank you again for you quick reply
Jenny
Thanks for this, unfortunately it says to change my user name, I need to contact the site and ask them to do it. I can change other details, could you do this for me, I am happy to be called JJ and then a number after my name?
Thank you for this. How do I explain to doctors about needing a fit note and are they usually okay at producing them. I had read something about needing doctors notes, but it seems a strange thing to have to do, once a disabled child becomes an adult, but obviously will do what I need to do.
Will showing his Education, health & social care plan to work coach help. Although I note, that education always write them in a way that focuses mainly on his positives.
Thank you again for you quick reply
Jenny
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2 years 9 months ago #269433 by Gary
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Replied by Gary on topic Query about disabled child, going to adult benefits
Hi JJ
Unfortunately I am not able to do this, as I do not have access to the back office.
Just explain to the doctor that your son will now need to claim UC and to be placed in the LCWRA group he will need a 'fit note' from his doctor to give to his workcoach.
Are you your son's appointee? if you are then I would contact UC helpline: 0800 328 5644 for guidance.
Showing his Education, health & social care plan may help with his UC plan and his claimant commitment. Does it show him in a true light or as you state in your post in only portrays his positive points, in which case do not use it, use other supporting documents including one from yourself stating what support you give your son and why, the why part is important.
The conditions for claiming Universal Credit are set out in a "claimant commitment" that most people will have to accept at the beginning of their claim. If you are part of a couple, you will each have a separate claimant commitment that may be different from each other's.
People who may not need to accept a commitment include those who lack capacity, those who have exceptional circumstances where it would be unreasonable to expect them to agree a commitment (this is decided by the work coach on a case by case basis), or, from 15 February 2022 they have a terminal illness and have less than 6 months to live. There are 4 conditionality groups:
* Group 1. No work related requirements
* Group 2. Work-focused interview requirement
* Group 3. Work preparation requirement
* Group 4. All work-related requirements
www.entitledto.co.uk/help/Claimant-commitment-Universal-Credit
Gary
Unfortunately I am not able to do this, as I do not have access to the back office.
Just explain to the doctor that your son will now need to claim UC and to be placed in the LCWRA group he will need a 'fit note' from his doctor to give to his workcoach.
Are you your son's appointee? if you are then I would contact UC helpline: 0800 328 5644 for guidance.
Showing his Education, health & social care plan may help with his UC plan and his claimant commitment. Does it show him in a true light or as you state in your post in only portrays his positive points, in which case do not use it, use other supporting documents including one from yourself stating what support you give your son and why, the why part is important.
The conditions for claiming Universal Credit are set out in a "claimant commitment" that most people will have to accept at the beginning of their claim. If you are part of a couple, you will each have a separate claimant commitment that may be different from each other's.
People who may not need to accept a commitment include those who lack capacity, those who have exceptional circumstances where it would be unreasonable to expect them to agree a commitment (this is decided by the work coach on a case by case basis), or, from 15 February 2022 they have a terminal illness and have less than 6 months to live. There are 4 conditionality groups:
* Group 1. No work related requirements
* Group 2. Work-focused interview requirement
* Group 3. Work preparation requirement
* Group 4. All work-related requirements
www.entitledto.co.uk/help/Claimant-commitment-Universal-Credit
Gary
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2 years 9 months ago #269549 by Teddy
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Hi JJ I may be late in responding but I am going through similar with my daughter at the moment.
We applied for UC in February. I found the GP was very very familiar with the need for us to supply the fit notes! he said he does about 3 every day for people registered with him so don't worry about asking. Ideally you will get one for 3 months (GP said that any longer than that the DWP does not like it so he sticks to 3 months at a time).
Once you submit the UC application and the fit note (online) your son will be sent a long form called a UC50 to fill in which asks about capability for work. This is a big ordeal to complete and where the guides from this website can be useful. It is best if you can submit evidence with it to support the things you are saying.
Then we await the assessment - we submitted our form in early March and are still waiting - the assessment will decide which group my daughter will be placed in. In the meantime she receives UC at the standard rate. I think it is good to get the UC claim in asap as not only do you get the UC payments you also get national insurance credits while receiving UC and your son will presumably need these as well.
Good luck with your claim.
We applied for UC in February. I found the GP was very very familiar with the need for us to supply the fit notes! he said he does about 3 every day for people registered with him so don't worry about asking. Ideally you will get one for 3 months (GP said that any longer than that the DWP does not like it so he sticks to 3 months at a time).
Once you submit the UC application and the fit note (online) your son will be sent a long form called a UC50 to fill in which asks about capability for work. This is a big ordeal to complete and where the guides from this website can be useful. It is best if you can submit evidence with it to support the things you are saying.
Then we await the assessment - we submitted our form in early March and are still waiting - the assessment will decide which group my daughter will be placed in. In the meantime she receives UC at the standard rate. I think it is good to get the UC claim in asap as not only do you get the UC payments you also get national insurance credits while receiving UC and your son will presumably need these as well.
Good luck with your claim.
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2 years 8 months ago #270834 by Clarebear
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Replied by Clarebear on topic Query about disabled child, going to adult benefits
Hi JJ
I'm doing the same thing for my daughter who's just hit 20. I gave the work coach a copy of her PIP assessment which covers extensively her needs physically and mentally. I debated the EHCP & decided no because it's always so darned positive you'd think Mary Poppins had written it. However, we had an EHCP at college last week & they have had to rethink their plan with my daughter because her needs are too great & she cannot safely be placed in mainstream even with a learning support assistant & door to door transport. I'm trying to figure out how I present that in the UC50 which I received on Friday. If she needs to stay in a secure, continually supervised SENbase at college how can she be fit for work?
Our GP is great, unfortunately evidence from other professionals especially during the Covid years is limited. Especially as my daughter was at a SEN school that provided services in house so my daughter was readily signed off by CAMHS etc.
Good luck everyone with your claims.
Clare
I'm doing the same thing for my daughter who's just hit 20. I gave the work coach a copy of her PIP assessment which covers extensively her needs physically and mentally. I debated the EHCP & decided no because it's always so darned positive you'd think Mary Poppins had written it. However, we had an EHCP at college last week & they have had to rethink their plan with my daughter because her needs are too great & she cannot safely be placed in mainstream even with a learning support assistant & door to door transport. I'm trying to figure out how I present that in the UC50 which I received on Friday. If she needs to stay in a secure, continually supervised SENbase at college how can she be fit for work?
Our GP is great, unfortunately evidence from other professionals especially during the Covid years is limited. Especially as my daughter was at a SEN school that provided services in house so my daughter was readily signed off by CAMHS etc.
Good luck everyone with your claims.
Clare
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