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2 years 3 months ago #273734 by Emma Tremor
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Hi all,
I am fairly new to the group and am trying to claim PIP for the first time. Brief history is that up to March 2021 I was in reasonable health and managed my anxiety, ASD, OCD, migraines and back issues fairly well so was able to manage day to day. Unfortunately since then I have suffered massive decline in my health and finally applied for PIP in December 2021.
I wanted to urge people to subscribe to B&W asap as I made so many mistakes before reading the guides and notes. Briefly I only skeleton filled in the form (mistake 1!) as I wrongly assumed the DWP would access medical records. I also didn't think to have my assessment recorded, or ask for a copy, so after receiving 0 points across the board I made another mistake by doing the MR over the phone and just repeating myself! After educating myself after many hours on this site, I think I finally managed to eloquently state my case to appeal.
I now have a video appeal hearing scheduled for 3pm Tuesday 27th September and am panicking about how to prepare.
My main concern is that my conditions have now been diagnosed, but on my original claim I did not know what to call it. Eg I have been diagnosed with Functional Neurological Disorder (FND), Functional Cognitive Disorder (FCD), Gait Disorder, Spinal conditions (following MRI) etc. But I thought my shaking was anxiety related and I've gone from 1 to 2 walking sticks / wheelchair.
I wondered if anyone had any experience with rapidly declining conditions, as they were all still there when I claimed (hence how they affected my daily Living and mobility), but they have got worse. I am unsure of what to say to the tribunal panel to help my case, as I feel that due to my communication problems it won't come through that although I have got worse since applying, I have still been unable to function day to day from way before my claim was put in last December.
I hope someone can respond before my appeal hearing. I will try to keep you updated on how things go. Wish me luck x

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2 years 3 months ago #273746 by BIS
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Hi Emma

Well done for persevering, and I wish you the best of luck.

I know it is much easier to write a post here than it is to take part in a Tribunal - but you have made yourself very clear in your post, and you can do the same for them. We do have guidance on handling a Tribunal - so do read it. Make sure that if you need a rest, tell them so. If you have had to take any extra medication, tell them so - and I hope that you will have someone with you.

It is not your fault that you didn't know at the time what your condition was called. Now the panel is supposed to judge you on the time you completed the form and MR - but it's not unreasonable to tell them what you know now. You said you couldn't function before. Just come out and say things are declining.

I would have a single piece of paper and write down a bulleted list of the most important things you need to get over to the panel. One panel member will be a doctor who at least has more understanding of medical conditions. Make sure though, that you are talking about how it affects you against the PIP criteria. Remember it is not so much the condition but the effect that counts.

If you have any specific questions when you have read through the guidance do come back and ask.

BIS

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2 years 3 months ago - 2 years 3 months ago #273747 by LL26
Replied by LL26 on topic Video Tribunal Hearing for PIP
Hi Emma
I am often asked about what hearings are like, and have written about this before , so this is what I have written. Remember that you can be seen. So if you have said you fail to wash very often ir wear dirty clothes then simply wear what you would normally wear. Or just wear the normal pull on clothes.Don’t feel the need to dress up- quite the contrary. A tired outfit, worn by someone with no make up gives much sense of disability . Definitely a case of don't dress to impress wear something comfortable from your day to day wardrobe!
The hearing is via video, so that takes away a lot of the issues involved in having to get to the Courthouse etc. Obviously make sure that your phone/computet is charged and have a glass of water, or a coffee nearby. Of course you can have eg your partner/son/ friend etc with you.
They will allow him to give evidence, but will expect you to answer the questions, unless it becomes obvious that you have eg become too anxious and can not do this. He can prompt you, but again the tribunal will expect you to try and answer. Important things like dates etc should be made by your if you get these wrong as this can then lead to inadvertent confusion.

Make sure you go to the toilet before the hearing. If you have your son etc present, he should monitor your well being. I'm not going to pretend that you won't feel somewhat nervous or anxious, but the tribunal won't necessarily know if you need a break for whatever reason. If your son feels you are struggling he should ask the tribunal for a five or ten minute break, also if you need the toilet.
The hearing will be like a job interview, it will comprise normally 3 members on the panel - Judge, Doctor and Disability expert (eg someone who has run a care home etc) Once the phone connection is set up, the judge normally introduces the panel and asks a few generic questions about you and your household. The Doctor then asks more detailed questions about your illnesses etc. You may then get asked specific questions about each descriptor activity by the Disability Expert.

The important thing is to be brutally honest. I know many people with disabilities will tell friends - 'oh yes I can manage that', but the reality is very different - they have their game face on, and don't explain that they have to grind through the pain, make several attempts before getting the task done correctly, drop things, have panic attacks etc etc - you need to explain to the tribunal exactly how difficult these tasks are, however embarrassing talking about your difficulties may be, you must tell all. Think of it like going to the dentist. I hate going to the dentist, however when I have toothache I realise that the only way to solve this is to put my worries aside and attend the dentist. I know it is going to be horrid for the hour or so I am at the dentist, and maybe a short time after too. The tribunal is like the dentist - not particularly pleasant, but something that has to be done, and in all senses of the word, the only way to get any benefit.

Try not to worry about the hearing - I know this is easy to say, but if you worry too much this will just cause unnecessary anxiety. Be yourself, be brutally honest. If you need to go shopping the previous day, or fancy a short walk, do these things - there is no need to rest up, and do nothing because you have a hearing the next day. This is a mistake - if you do all the normal things you would do, and come across as tired, or breathless or in pain etc as a result, then this will come across, if you are rested you will not appear tired or fatigued, or maybe anxious and this is unlikely to be representative of your true health.

Similarly, people think they will take an extra painkiller or anti-anxiety pill- try to avoid this if at all possible, for the same reasons. If you take extra meds you are likely to come across as less in pain less anxious etc and again this paints the wrong picture. However, take all your normal meds, and if you really have to take extra where this is allowed, but then explain that you have needed the extra medicine and say why.

Take a brief moment to analyse each question. What is being asked, what information is required, do I understand the question, do I know the answer? This shouldn't take more than a second. If asked why are you hesitant, then say an adviser has told you to take a moment to consider each question so you can answer correctly. I have never had a tribunal raise this point and I can't imagine if you explain this way it would be a problem.
Sometimes a tribunal might slip into jargon, so if you don't understand say so - they can rephrase. There may be times where you either don't know the question or have forgotten - say so. (There is huge temptation to think you need to answer every question - don't answer if you don't know - the 'wrong' answer will confuse and might lead the tribunal to an inappropriate and incorrect conclusion!)

The tribunal are trained to make decisions on less than 100% of all possible information - that is real life - it is very seldom that any form of court hearing will ever have the luxury of having all of the information - they have to decide on whatever is the best amount they can get.

At the hearing make sure you have the bundle available as often the tribunal refer to pages. It is also a good idea to read this before. You will need to refer to how your disabilities affected you at the time of the decision, but that said, if things are much the same, then you can talk about things as now. However, if you realise you have left something out, then it is important to say, but explain that you forgot to mention it earlier. (You might get quizzed on this, but you can explain the omission, and hopefully the tribunal will accept the explanation.)

I hope this helps.
LL26

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Last edit: 2 years 3 months ago by LL26. Reason: Missed out something
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2 years 3 months ago #273753 by SUE C C
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Hello Emma

Welcome, love your name by the way. All the best for your Tribunal Hearing tomorrow, don't let the 'Panel' get you down. Good luck.

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2 years 3 months ago #273791 by Emma Tremor
Replied by Emma Tremor on topic Video Tribunal Hearing for PIP
Just to let you know that I have just had my video Tribunal. Everyone was very nice and kind to me. Have to wait for the decision in the post (more anxiety!), but whatever the decision is, at least I feel like I was finally heard. So even if I have to start a new claim all over again, at least I have this experience to help me with the next application! I'll update when I get the decision by post x

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2 years 3 months ago #273794 by BIS
Replied by BIS on topic Video Tribunal Hearing for PIP
Hi Emma

So glad to hear that you had a good experience and felt heard. I hope that it will not be too long before you get the result.

BIS

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