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1 year 11 months ago #276766 by Izzy26
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yeah my friend is an assessor in training currently and leaving because it is very backwards and contradicts itself a lot. fingers crossed i get a positive outcome from this stress!
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1 year 11 months ago #276770 by Greendeco13
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I had a telephone review on 13 Jan which lasted 2.5 hours. Not heard anything yet but my PIP which should have paid in £440 in my bank today has paid in £67.
I’m guessing it’s been stopped, I am so upset. I have fibromyalgia, in constant pain, had a heart stent put in in Nov 22 and suffer anxiety and depression inc suicidal thoughts. The call was horrendous, I took propanolol before and my husband had to ask for a break as I was sobbing. I had to take more medication,
I felt the assessor kept going until I contradicted myself, asking same question over and over.
There is no way they have got any medical evidence from my GP in the time scales since.
After the call I was so ill for days with fibro flare up and anxiety. I am going to appeal but it’s bad they can stop your money before even telling you.
I’m guessing it’s been stopped, I am so upset. I have fibromyalgia, in constant pain, had a heart stent put in in Nov 22 and suffer anxiety and depression inc suicidal thoughts. The call was horrendous, I took propanolol before and my husband had to ask for a break as I was sobbing. I had to take more medication,
I felt the assessor kept going until I contradicted myself, asking same question over and over.
There is no way they have got any medical evidence from my GP in the time scales since.
After the call I was so ill for days with fibro flare up and anxiety. I am going to appeal but it’s bad they can stop your money before even telling you.
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1 year 11 months ago #276779 by Gary
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Hi Greendeco13
Have you contacted DWP and asked for a copy of the assessors report called a PA4?
When you have a copy of the assessors report you will have a better understanding of how the DWP Decision Maker may come to their conclusions and you will now be able to argue against them.
I usually use a highlighter to highlight any inaccuracies, once you have gone through the report you then set out why you are applying for a MR and go through each descriptor one at a time why you disagree with the assessor and try and match it with any supporting documents you may have sent in.
Understand that the assessor is offering an opinion when they say 'in my opinion' you can do the PIP activities, tackling these head-on is unlikely to be successful, you need to show that the basis of that opinion is founded on incorrect information, so try and refer to your evidence to undermine what they have said., remember they are just an opinion which is not based on fact.
Also, try and stick to issues that lead to your scoring points, I often hear members referring to the assessors spelling, as an example, whilst it may show a lack of professionalism, raising it as an issue isn't going to help you get an award.
Your primary task is to show that you meet the criteria, there are many reasons you may have failed, you need to address each of these but don't get bogged down in criticising the assessment report unless you can clearly show that it is incorrect, it is a lot easier to argue the facts of the situation;
Lastly, make sure that you understand the criteria that you are being assessed against you can put the best case forward that is possible but you won't score points if you do not meet the PIP Descriptors.
The first stage to challenging a Decision is for you to request a Mandatory Reconsideration, this needs to be done in writing to the DWP, within one month of the Decision, to the office that dealt with your claim, have a look at our PIP MR & Appeal guide; benefitsandwork.co.uk/guides-for-claimants/pip
For the CRMR1 form to initiate your MR; www.gov.uk/government/publications/chall...ork-and-pensions-dwp
When you have a better idea of the issues with your claim, come back to the forum and we will do our best to help.
Gary
Have you contacted DWP and asked for a copy of the assessors report called a PA4?
When you have a copy of the assessors report you will have a better understanding of how the DWP Decision Maker may come to their conclusions and you will now be able to argue against them.
I usually use a highlighter to highlight any inaccuracies, once you have gone through the report you then set out why you are applying for a MR and go through each descriptor one at a time why you disagree with the assessor and try and match it with any supporting documents you may have sent in.
Understand that the assessor is offering an opinion when they say 'in my opinion' you can do the PIP activities, tackling these head-on is unlikely to be successful, you need to show that the basis of that opinion is founded on incorrect information, so try and refer to your evidence to undermine what they have said., remember they are just an opinion which is not based on fact.
Also, try and stick to issues that lead to your scoring points, I often hear members referring to the assessors spelling, as an example, whilst it may show a lack of professionalism, raising it as an issue isn't going to help you get an award.
Your primary task is to show that you meet the criteria, there are many reasons you may have failed, you need to address each of these but don't get bogged down in criticising the assessment report unless you can clearly show that it is incorrect, it is a lot easier to argue the facts of the situation;
Lastly, make sure that you understand the criteria that you are being assessed against you can put the best case forward that is possible but you won't score points if you do not meet the PIP Descriptors.
The first stage to challenging a Decision is for you to request a Mandatory Reconsideration, this needs to be done in writing to the DWP, within one month of the Decision, to the office that dealt with your claim, have a look at our PIP MR & Appeal guide; benefitsandwork.co.uk/guides-for-claimants/pip
For the CRMR1 form to initiate your MR; www.gov.uk/government/publications/chall...ork-and-pensions-dwp
When you have a better idea of the issues with your claim, come back to the forum and we will do our best to help.
Gary
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