mandatory reconsideration - questions-

hi there

i have some questions about doing a mandatory reconsideration- ive tried my best to read guide but ironically because of my fuzzy head /mental health issues- its is difficult to take it all in. last time i did my MR myself- and WON! BUT I just wrote it-covering all the relevant points- as assessor had lied about what happened/ what was said in room - ( i had my sis with me so she wrote a supporting letter) & assessor put in decision that as i could answer all questions- make eye contact- seemed intelligent! etc 'my mental health did not affect my daily living' -which was ridiculous! so i could challenge it - & won -BUT- i had had a face to face assessment!! & the old gp report was filled out correctly. as previously stated-they cancelled my tel assessment so i didnt get a chance to explain further my conditions and daily living needs , MENTAL HEALTH- DPERESSION AFFECTS ME & meds side affects- constantly fuzzy headed & get dizzy with panic attacks help /aids needed etc as they did a 'paper based 'so i didnt get a chance to fully explain things in more detail. as paper based - so no imput form me directly- they only hv my form - an old mental health team report/ support letter - (it took 2 years to sned fom to atos) & GP report form -which as I explained before - because i wasnt expecting GP to call- the receptionist had told me he was fully booked & would NOT BE CALLNG THAT DAY AND i stupidly didnt think to look up gp report form- as i had copy of my old one that just had conditions & meds so i didnt know the form had changed! so when he called unexpectedly -& suddenly started asking what help i need - i was in such a state i forgot to tell him important info- eg i use a pill Dossett box to manage my meds etc AND he asked what do i spend my money on!!! wtf? totally unexpected and i went blank & didnt tell him things i use money for to help my mental health etc - im sure i will b turned down. ironically if i wasnt so genuinely unwell this would not hv happened. & iys affected my health terribly. everything seems more complicated than when i first claimed! questions are_ do i have to fill out a form - or can i just write my reasons in each relevant point form- or do i hv to fill out form. can i send an older mental health report - i didnt send with this review that explains my ptsd cannot be cured? . or will they say thats old evidence even to its relevant. Can i explain i wasnt expecting hp call so didn't say certain things that affect me /help i need etc . can i use the 50% rule - as gp knows i cant go out more than 2 days max. and would hv written in conditions 'cant go out ' can is send letter from family member who has come to stay several times since last pip application and witnessed my conditions , self neglect- not washing bathing - not dressing inability to function properly my incontinence etc etc - or will they discount a letter from family /say family can 'collude'? if i have no new medical evidence APART FROM LATEST MEDICATION LIST- will they automatically fail me?- i dont want to call the local metal health crisis team again - even tho i constantly hv suicidal thoughts because ALL of my previous contact with them has not been helpful- its just been upsetting & incredibly damaging. Hxxxxxxx mental health team hv a terrible reputation - they r so underfunded under staffed- unorganised- many staff are so under trained- overworked -rude - damaging -its literally a nightmare! ( ong story shared by other users) im afraid of them. so i dont know how i can get new evidence . any advice knowledge appreciated. i intend to speak to gp again- but hes not there again for 4 weeks!!!! this whole thing has taken over my life - & many days i can barely function at all-keep having to go back to bed- am so scared all the time my ptsd has really kicked off! and hv no help or support so im trying to struggle thro this best i can. so sorry if i keep asking questions.

many thanks

HI ther to explain further when i did the ORIGIONAL PIP APPLICATION i had f2f assessment my sis came with me so when assessor lied she wrote supporting letter stating what actually happened in f2f assessment - AND I WROTE MY OWN MR via a kind of essay with each descriptor bullet points & how ridiculous the asessors conclusions were and won.
this is about my first and CURRANT PIP REVIEW!! ATOS had given me a telephone assessment date march 13h then out of blue- my tel assessment was CANCELLED ! AND THEY SUDDENLUY DID PAPER BASED so i was UNABLE not given the chance to speak with them to explain more fully how my health affects my daily living needs as as i was with the mental health team at time of filling out pip review form and they were stressing me out so much - i didnt do a good job of filling in the pip review form well. AND Atos did paper based BEFORE GETING MY GP REPORT. because of my fuzzy head- i didnt think to look up the NEW GP REPORT it has changed SIGNIFICANTLY since last time it was done!- last time it was just medical conditions and medications. so with new gp report - i had called at 8am when i cant think straight coz im nocturnal & the receptionist toldme my GP was fully booked so would NOT be calling me! IF she had said i had a tel gp consult booked- i was going to write notes & would hv looked up new gp report in pip guide-so i was ready - but as she said he was NOT going to call- i was going to write notes later - when i had woken up - as im nocturnal i cant think in mornings - then he called totolly out of the blue when i wasn't expecting it - he started asking questions i was NOT expecting - eg 'what help do you need' & i TOTALLY FORGOT IMPORTANT THINGS - EG HELP GOING OUT - help FOLLOWING UNFAMILIAR JOURNEY - monitor health & meds i use pill dosset box etc. AND he asked what do i spend my money on & i just froze! this would NOT HV HAPPEND if id known GP WAS GOING TO CALL! so upshot is im sure i will FAIL /LOSE MY PIP cant pay bills without it etc.
so re the MR i will hv to do myself- citzizens advice dont do MR or appeals anymore here nor any other agency & i hv noone to help - i read the guide & it seemed to say i need to fill out a form- when last time i just wrote a kind of essay covering relevant descriptors & how ridiculous it was assessor had put because i could answer all the questions make eye contact and seemed 'intellegent'- with the support of my sister -my mental health did not affect my daily life which is ridiculous! BUT THIS TIMEI HAD NO FACE TO FACE OR TELEPHONE ASSESSMENT- it got cancelled- so it will be more difficult to do MR . also some conditions hv worsened. i have absolutely NOONE to help me with my daily needs - or support me- so i wanted to know - do i HAVE TO FILL OUT FORM as on pip guide here - or can i just write & explain like before and also can i EXPLAIN that when the gp called -i just wasnt expecting the call so forgot to tell him important things - ! or will they say me & my GP 'Colluded' . also i do not hv any new medical evidence- but i do hv an older mental health report that states my ptsd is not curable - as i dont hv a support system the therapy they offer would make me worse- can i use that older report that explains in new MR this time even tho its 4 year old? also my mum has visited for 3 days several times since last pip application and witnessed my bad health - self neglect- not washing - sitting in nightie - we are unable to go out because of my health & anxiety etc - can she write a letter of support for my new MR ? or will they ignore it ? i have to say i find it v upsetting they CANCELLED my tel interview so i just havnt had the chance to explain my daily needs in more detail- they just did paper based based on my pip review form & evidence/ the then menatl health support worker report/suport letter - so its more difficult to challenge thier desision as i did not actually get to speak with an assessor! . the MR FORM ON PIP GUIDE says what NEW medical evidence are you providing- well i wont have any . as stated i have no family or anyone that can help me with new MR and it ALL seems to have changed. so im at wits end.
any advise welcome. thanks

THANKS.
firstly you say a PA3 assessors report is what i need to ask for but sometimes they say a PA3 may not be filed. if they say a PA3 report had not been filed what does that mean? can they a\ctually make a decision without a PA3 report being filed? or does it just mean it has not been filed YET?
Also is it worth including a letter from my mum as she has witnessed my self neglect , and health issues when she has visited she visits for 3 days at a a time so has witnessed my health over 3 days - will they take that into account or just ignore it because its a family member?

Also can i call to say i want to ask for an MR so its on record but that i will put in writing either by the form or in writing my reasons? thats what i did last time. i called to say i want MR then wrote my reasons.
i still hv not recieved a decision letter tho im sure it will be No. im so unwell at mo im waiting for actually getting the letter before i call and ask for report if they don't provide it. and ask for MR .
thanks.

hi there and thanks
firstly you say i need a copy of my PA3 assessors report but that sometimes they say a PA3 form has NOT been filed. can you explain this? can they make a decision WITHOUT a PA3 form being filed and if so how do i challenge decision? or WOULD IT JUST BE the PA3 has not been filed YET?
Also CAN I CALL DWP to say i want an MR but i will put it in writing as i cant think of everything on the phone and will need some time to write my argument/reasons i disagree with decision due to my bad health. and how long do you have to get the MR form or info in writing form the time you ask for an MR?
also can i include an old mental health report i didnt send with this review that is stating my ptsd can not be cured? as this is relevant?
and finally -can i send letter from my mum who has visited for 3 days at a time several times since review form was sent and has witnessed my self neglect and health issues etc or will they ignore this as she is a family member?
i have not received my decision letter yet- but as i mucked up the gp report because as stated i didn't know he was going to call or that the gp report had changed -im sure it will be a no. my health is so bad im waiting to get the decision letter and will then ask for more info /assessors report if there is one. if there is NO PA3 form can i still do MR?
sorry to keep asking questions but its all so scary and confusing.
many thanks