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1 year 8 months ago #279331 by vicki_s
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I am 95% housebound. I probably cover more than 20 meters in the day just by going to the bathroom and kitchen a few times a day (with extensive rest periods in between) However when I'm moving around my house I'm doing so in extreme fatigue and pain and it affects any activity I try and do afterwards. Does this mean I tick the box the 0-20 meters box even though I probably cover more than 20 meters just moving around my house? I live in an average size 3 bed home but live from the downstairs and I really struggles with the stairs. If I do go outdoors I can't walk any distance without a mobility scooter.

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1 year 8 months ago #279342 by BIS
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Hi vicki_s

Tick the 0-20 meters. It's not about how much you might walk in a day; it's about how much you can do on one 'journey' (in or out of the house)how safely and reliably you are able to do it and whether you can repeat it. As you can only walk with extensive rests, while suffering from fatigue and pain, your mobility is severely restricted and from what you say 0-20 is the right box to tick. Please don't put on the form about that you might do more than 20 in a day. Don't offer information that you are not asked for, as it can easily be misinterpreted, and an assessor may assume you are more mobile than you are.

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1 year 8 months ago #279348 by vicki_s
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Thank you for the helpful response! So in summary it's the length I can do repeatedly, safely and reliably in one journey rather than over the course of a day?

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1 year 8 months ago - 1 year 8 months ago #279350 by LL26
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Hi vicki_s,
Just to add to BIS' reply,
Mobility descriptor 2 requires walking outdoors. A further part of the 'reliability' criteria is doing the activity to an acceptable standard. Significant pain will be relevant to whether any activity can be done acceptably. (NB walking is a bit of an misleading term, as the actual walking could only be a few steps maximum,) Any walking with severe discomfort, - which is a lot less than severe pain, has to be discounted, even if in reality you can struggle through the pain to get from A to B. Severe discomfort could also include breathlessness, fatigue, racing heart or even nausea. If you have severe discomfort at the start of walking all metres have to be discounted- so the distance you need to tick is in such a case is definitely 0 to 20m.
Basically it's about the number of metres you can walk without severe discomfort etc that you can do in a reasonable time, acceptably, safely and crucially repeatedly as many times as reasonably required during the day. Think of this possible scenario, bearing in mind journeys will probably be eg by car, but will necessitate a few steps from the car to the adjacent building. Kids to school, post office to post letter. Home. Remember you have to get a birthday card for your cousin, get card, collect kids from school, deliver card. Home. None of these journeys and any associated walking would be unreasonable, and if you can't repeat ie do all if these then it is likely you should score points according to the distance you can do safely, acceptably etc. Remember if you have to pause and stop, this could take you outside the reasonable time, and might give rise to two 'walks' rather than one longer one. I hope this helps clarify.
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