for BIS.. Pip assessment guidelines re. appointees.. again

Hi apologies BIS

I’ve been trying to post a reply on my post from yesterday but they’re not coming through

I just had a question about whether you’d know if I’d have to prove to an assessor that my autistic nephew has lack of insight ? That was regarding me wanting to represent him without him being there, so he could be represented fairly.

And I wanted to thank you also


Hi BIS

That’s great information and advice again thank you

“ the HP should make every effort is quite a compelling part of that quote”

I think I’ve also seen it written somewhere that where a claimant lacks insight there should be a paper based review . I need to check, it might not still be in the guidance…. Although if it is I wonder if I would have to prove that my nephew has lack of insight….

I think that I’ve mentioned that my nephew has lack of insight on the pip application form. I know that I’ve mentioned it to them in a couple of letters I’ve recently sent to the dwp.

My nephews lack of insight is a big part of the reason why he can’t fairly represent himself…can’t fairly represent himself those are the exact words that should be used .
I don’t think that anyone would be able to give my nephew insight, he just sees things his way, it’s his perspective, that just isn’t right.

If we are both in the assessment together my nephew will feel that he will want to deny or contradict what I am saying. This just happened in a mental health appointment with my mother as an advocate, it’s happened in FE college, and it happens at home.


That’s so right, the autism should be brought out/put forward.

Yes, the appointee can’t manage the process at any time.

A number of years ago I was newly brain injured and was merely my nephew’s companion in a pip assessment. My nephew right the way through, just answered that he could do everything that he can’t do. The assessor wouldn’t allow me to speak and it was obvious that my nephew didn’t want me to speak either. After the assessment was over I spoke to her with my nephew out of earshot . I seem to remember she was shaking her head in response and said it’s best to get him into work and best to do it asap. This was a pip assessment, an in work or out of work benefit.
Apologies for the longish reply. I just thought that you might want to know.

Many thanks, I’m very grateful again