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- King Al
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13 years 9 months ago #55262 by King Al
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I totally agree which is why I've taken care to separate the issues regarding ET Employment Tribunal and County Courty which are non employment issue claims.
Last year I was dismissed from a Land of the Rising Sun car company on capability grounds LITERALLY because of my diagnoses of Aspergers syndrome which of course is unlawful discrimination, unfair and wrongly dismissal etc and is ongoing via Employment Tribunal.
What I was trying to say is that there is a lot more help/advice/assistance for those that suffer employment related discrimination but for those on benefits or even a low wage for that matter, to take on say for example the DWP, JCP, NHS and so many other governmental organisations, including charities (Lots of bad charities out there too) We need a charity ombudsman for sure.
I really wish it was possible to display some of my documents in here, argh lol.
Everyone please read this link for more info on the Equality Act 2010 and especially the Equality Act statutory code of practice. It IS a lot to read but once it's "clicked" believe me it is an eye opener.
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/forum?func=view&catid=13&id=54062
BR058 and CMARIE510 I will respond soon but I am trying not to have to long a post lol.
Best wishes
King Al
Big Fan of the Equality Act 2010.
I totally agree which is why I've taken care to separate the issues regarding ET Employment Tribunal and County Courty which are non employment issue claims.
Last year I was dismissed from a Land of the Rising Sun car company on capability grounds LITERALLY because of my diagnoses of Aspergers syndrome which of course is unlawful discrimination, unfair and wrongly dismissal etc and is ongoing via Employment Tribunal.
What I was trying to say is that there is a lot more help/advice/assistance for those that suffer employment related discrimination but for those on benefits or even a low wage for that matter, to take on say for example the DWP, JCP, NHS and so many other governmental organisations, including charities (Lots of bad charities out there too) We need a charity ombudsman for sure.
I really wish it was possible to display some of my documents in here, argh lol.
Everyone please read this link for more info on the Equality Act 2010 and especially the Equality Act statutory code of practice. It IS a lot to read but once it's "clicked" believe me it is an eye opener.
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/forum?func=view&catid=13&id=54062
BR058 and CMARIE510 I will respond soon but I am trying not to have to long a post lol.
Best wishes
King Al
Big Fan of the Equality Act 2010.
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13 years 9 months ago #55264 by penthesili
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A quick, slightly related question here. Now as some of us wheelies are aware not all ATOS medicals take place in wheelchair friendly buildings, for instance the assessment centre in Croydon is on the first floor and they won't let a wheelchair user use the lift 'for health and safety reasons'. This happened to a wheelie over on the OUCH boards. If an ATOS centre refuses to let you use their lift to get to the first floor where the examinations are held, and this has happened pretty frequently there, what is the position of the wheelchair user? Can they insist on a home visit as they have been refused use of the lift, or will ATOS say that they have refused the medical because they physically are unable to use the stairs??
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13 years 9 months ago #55266 by Gordon
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penthesilie
It is more likely that they will offer you an appointment at an another centre that is disabled friendly.
Gordon
It is more likely that they will offer you an appointment at an another centre that is disabled friendly.
Gordon
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13 years 9 months ago #55285 by mistynow
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Gordon wrote:
but shouldn't they all be disabled friendly including access and toilets ?
penthesilie
It is more likely that they will offer you an appointment at an another centre that is disabled friendly.
Gordon
but shouldn't they all be disabled friendly including access and toilets ?
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13 years 9 months ago #55291 by RachelPotter
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Yes they should all have facilities such as disabled parking bays, ramps, lifts etc
The fact that they haven't just shows what they already think of claimants!
The fact that they haven't just shows what they already think of claimants!
- bro58
13 years 9 months ago #55323 by bro58
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Dave wrote:
Hi Dave, There are numerous reasons why you might need a home assessment, whilst not being housebound.
Housebound would imply you were unable to leave your home at all due to physical or mental conditions,
One scenario, could be you have an issue with incontinence, which would restrict travel, this does not mean you are housebound.
Another could be poor mobility, severe pain, needs supervision, liable to falls.
all this does not mean you are literally housebound.
This is where "Reasonable Adjustments" come in as to an individuals particular needs, and possible contravention of The Equality Act (DDA).
The G.P.service guidelines are non relevant as it is not the G.P. doing the assessment, it's ATOS.
Do you see what I am getting at?
Cheers
bro58
bro58 wrote:
I actually asked my G.P. about support for a home medical a few days ago. (if and when I have to have one)
He said it would be hard to get one as I was not "Housebound".
I told him this was not the criteria, and told him of my severe mobility issues,risk involved and resonable adjustments. It was clear he didn't "get it"
He said he would do his best, however it was clear he was "parroting" the ATOS speel.
I am now going to write to him, very nicely and inform him of Equalities Act regs etc, to put him straight.
Thanks King Al for the info.
bro58
Why if your not housebound do you need a home medical ? the GP service which is where the GPs mind set on this matter comes from has guidelines that tell him when and when not to do home visits he is not "parroting" when you spoke with your GP was he doing a home visit ? if he was that would help your case
Hi Dave, There are numerous reasons why you might need a home assessment, whilst not being housebound.
Housebound would imply you were unable to leave your home at all due to physical or mental conditions,
One scenario, could be you have an issue with incontinence, which would restrict travel, this does not mean you are housebound.
Another could be poor mobility, severe pain, needs supervision, liable to falls.
all this does not mean you are literally housebound.
This is where "Reasonable Adjustments" come in as to an individuals particular needs, and possible contravention of The Equality Act (DDA).
The G.P.service guidelines are non relevant as it is not the G.P. doing the assessment, it's ATOS.
Do you see what I am getting at?
Cheers
bro58
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