× Members

ESA and Teachers Pension

  • asdman
  • Topic Author
12 years 5 months ago #92133 by asdman
ESA and Teachers Pension was created by asdman
I’m having a bit of a panic. I need to send my ESA50 off tomorrow morning and am just about to print off the computerised form. My sudden concern is that I’ve made quite a few references to the fact I was medically retired from teaching and get an enhanced Teachers Pension on the grounds that I’m unable to do any sort of work at all. My worry is that if I’m found either in WRAG or “fit to work” then the DWP will contact the Teachers Pension Service and say I am able do some work and I will therefore lose my Teachers Pension. I’d really like to keep the references in as I think it helps my case! Does anyone have any experience or advice about whether there’s any linkage between getting ESA and keeping a Teachers pension. All logic tells me that the two things are totally unrelated but I worry when I don’t actually have something from them in writing.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
12 years 5 months ago #92139 by Gordon
Replied by Gordon on topic Re:ESA and Teachers Pension
asdman wrote:

I’m having a bit of a panic. I need to send my ESA50 off tomorrow morning and am just about to print off the computerised form. My sudden concern is that I’ve made quite a few references to the fact I was medically retired from teaching and get an enhanced Teachers Pension on the grounds that I’m unable to do any sort of work at all. My worry is that if I’m found either in WRAG or “fit to work” then the DWP will contact the Teachers Pension Service and say I am able do some work and I will therefore lose my Teachers Pension. I’d really like to keep the references in as I think it helps my case! Does anyone have any experience or advice about whether there’s any linkage between getting ESA and keeping a Teachers pension. All logic tells me that the two things are totally unrelated but I worry when I don’t actually have something from them in writing.

There are a couple of aspects to this.

First, what seems to be a common mistake, being placed in the WRAG means that you will have been Unfit for Work and you are not required to work or to seek work.

With regard you work pension, you need to get a copy of the terms and conditions to understand what if any impact being in receipt of ESA will mean.

Finally, if you have not done so, you need to notify the DWP of any payments you are receiving in connection with this pension, in case they effect your payments or eligibility.

I would recommend you get face to face advice, as these are matters that we are not really placed to provide assistance with. See

Where to get advice?

Gordon

Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Jim Allison BSc, Inst LE, MBIM; MA (Consumer Protection & Social Welfare Law)
  • Offline
More
12 years 5 months ago #92156 by Jim Allison BSc, Inst LE, MBIM; MA (Consumer Protection & Social Welfare Law)
Replied by Jim Allison BSc, Inst LE, MBIM; MA (Consumer Protection & Social Welfare Law) on topic Re:ESA and Teachers Pension
asdman wrote:

I’m having a bit of a panic. I need to send my ESA50 off tomorrow morning and am just about to print off the computerised form. My sudden concern is that I’ve made quite a few references to the fact I was medically retired from teaching and get an enhanced Teachers Pension on the grounds that I’m unable to do any sort of work at all. My worry is that if I’m found either in WRAG or “fit to work” then the DWP will contact the Teachers Pension Service and say I am able do some work and I will therefore lose my Teachers Pension. I’d really like to keep the references in as I think it helps my case! Does anyone have any experience or advice about whether there’s any linkage between getting ESA and keeping a Teachers pension. All logic tells me that the two things are totally unrelated but I worry when I don’t actually have something from them in writing.


I'm not really 'au fait' with ESA as I retired from local government on ill-health grounds when ESA was IB.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but is a teacher's pension not the same as a local government occupational pension ?

I am now of state retirement pension age, so have had no dealings with ESA. However, when I had to take ill-health retirement I was on Invalidity Benefit (IVB) and remained on IVB until I received my state pension.

My wife is a former NHS nurse who had to take ill-health retirement after contracting an industrial disease at work. She was on Incapacity Benefit until she reached 60 years of age and went onto state retirement pension.

Neither of us lost our respective long term IVB/IB. nor were these benefits reduced by 50p in the £ as was normal at that time if we had an occupational pension of £85.00 per week or more as we were covered by transitional protection.

Whether this applies to ESA whilst in receipt of an occupational pension I'm real not sure.

Perhaps one of our moderators with experience of ESA could clarify the current situation.

PLEASE READ THE SPOTLIGHTS AREA OF THE FORUM REGULARLY, OTHERWISE YOU MAY MISS OUT ON IMPORTANT INFORMATION. Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • bro58
12 years 5 months ago #92157 by bro58
Replied by bro58 on topic Re:ESA and Teachers Pension
Jim Allison wrote:

asdman wrote:

I’m having a bit of a panic. I need to send my ESA50 off tomorrow morning and am just about to print off the computerised form. My sudden concern is that I’ve made quite a few references to the fact I was medically retired from teaching and get an enhanced Teachers Pension on the grounds that I’m unable to do any sort of work at all. My worry is that if I’m found either in WRAG or “fit to work” then the DWP will contact the Teachers Pension Service and say I am able do some work and I will therefore lose my Teachers Pension. I’d really like to keep the references in as I think it helps my case! Does anyone have any experience or advice about whether there’s any linkage between getting ESA and keeping a Teachers pension. All logic tells me that the two things are totally unrelated but I worry when I don’t actually have something from them in writing.


I'm not really 'au fait' with ESA as I retired from local government on ill-health grounds when ESA was IB.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but is a teacher's pension not the same as a local government occupational pension ?

I am now of state retirement pension age, so have had no dealings with ESA. However, when I had to take ill-health retirement I was on Invalidity Benefit (IVB) and remained on IVB until I received my state pension.

My wife is a former NHS nurse who had to take ill-health retirement after contracting an industrial disease at work. She was on Incapacity Benefit until she reached 60 years of age and went onto state retirement pension.

Neither of us lost our respective long term IVB/IB. nor were these benefits reduced by 50p in the £ as was normal at that time if we had an occupational pension of £85.00 per week or more as we were covered by transitional protection.

Whether this applies to ESA whilst in receipt of an occupational pension I'm real not sure.

Perhaps one of our moderators with experience of ESA could clarify the current situation.


Please see the following FAQ Jim :

Will my pension be disregarded under ESA?

bro58

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Jim Allison BSc, Inst LE, MBIM; MA (Consumer Protection & Social Welfare Law)
  • Offline
More
12 years 5 months ago #92160 by Jim Allison BSc, Inst LE, MBIM; MA (Consumer Protection & Social Welfare Law)
Replied by Jim Allison BSc, Inst LE, MBIM; MA (Consumer Protection & Social Welfare Law) on topic Re:ESA and Teachers Pension
Thanks for the link :)

PLEASE READ THE SPOTLIGHTS AREA OF THE FORUM REGULARLY, OTHERWISE YOU MAY MISS OUT ON IMPORTANT INFORMATION. Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Moderators: bro58GordonGaryBISCatherineWendyKellygreekqueenpeterKatherineSuper UserChrisDavid