Sending esa50 documents to dwp

bro58 wrote:

Derekq wrote:

Hello Forum
I have looked at Genaral FAQ's "sending documents to atos & dwp" but would be interested in other people's thoughts.

I have received my esa50 and have been warmly invited to fill in the exquisitely scripted questionnarie.

The covering letter states DO NOT send any medical statements !
but if you have medical documents to send them with your questionnaire, well I am on IB long term and do not have any current medical documents to send, is this a major failing not to have medical documents ?

As has been said some people send a copy of there esa50 direct to the DM at the dwp dealing with there case, would this be a good move to get maybe a med4 or some other type of medical documents or even a letter from my GP if he will write one that is.

If I send a copy to the DM at the dwp are they likely to even read it ??? are the dwp likely to send me a letter saying they have received my copy of the esa50, maybe they will just file it untill atos get back to them.

I assume that atos will return my esa50 to the dwp when they have read it and after I have a medical ? there report will also go to the dwp for the DM to give there final verdict.

Just to recap is there a benefit to sending a copy of esa50 to dwp and would any form of medical document help at the DM end of the chain.

Sorry so long winded post but getting worried .................

Thanks, Derek.

Hi Dq,

As you may have noticed, there is a currnet thread on sending recorded mail to ATOS, here :

www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/forum?func=vie...id=10&id=94274#94274

As you have received your ESA50, you may wish to consider :

Using The PDF Version Of The ESA50 Questionnaire

Whilst referring to the associated section in our :

ESA Claims Guides

With respect to the ESA50, see :

How long do I have to complete the ESA50?

ESA50 too big for the envelope

The Medical Statements that they refer to are Fit/Sick Notes (MED 3's).

The Medical Documents that they refer to would be such things as letters of support from one's G.P., Consultant or other treating HCP, extracts from your G.P. hospital records, x-ray, MRI scan reports etc, letter from your G.P. to a Consultant or vice-versa, etc, etc.

Sending a copy of your ESA50 and any supporting evidence to the DWP ESA DM, it totally at your own discretion, and not obligatory. It may be done as a back-up, in case any thing is lost at the ATOS end, as it is the DWP ESA DM who actually makes the decision. Therefore, it is only a safe guard.

It is entirely possible to be awarded ESA in either WRAG or SG, without any extra evidenece, but you will need to go into great detail in your ESA50 , on how your limitations as a result of your medical conditions fit in with the WRAG and SG Descriptors, see :

Qualifying for the Support Group

&

Qualifying for the WRAG


You can use letters of support from friends, relatives, or carers who know how your limitations affect you on a daily basis.

You could also write an hourly breakdown of a "typical day" (24 hour period) in your life.

bro58

Hi Bro58,
can you slightly elaborate on how an hourly breakdown of a "typical day" would be of any benefit???

I am rather intriged as to how this would be of any help!!!
Would one have to write down things done/not done on an hourly basis??? Also notwo days are the same.

Sorry if i come across as a bit dim

Thanks.

Radhika.

radhika wrote:

bro58 wrote:

Derekq wrote:

Hello Forum
I have looked at Genaral FAQ's "sending documents to atos & dwp" but would be interested in other people's thoughts.

I have received my esa50 and have been warmly invited to fill in the exquisitely scripted questionnarie.

The covering letter states DO NOT send any medical statements !
but if you have medical documents to send them with your questionnaire, well I am on IB long term and do not have any current medical documents to send, is this a major failing not to have medical documents ?

As has been said some people send a copy of there esa50 direct to the DM at the dwp dealing with there case, would this be a good move to get maybe a med4 or some other type of medical documents or even a letter from my GP if he will write one that is.

If I send a copy to the DM at the dwp are they likely to even read it ??? are the dwp likely to send me a letter saying they have received my copy of the esa50, maybe they will just file it untill atos get back to them.

I assume that atos will return my esa50 to the dwp when they have read it and after I have a medical ? there report will also go to the dwp for the DM to give there final verdict.

Just to recap is there a benefit to sending a copy of esa50 to dwp and would any form of medical document help at the DM end of the chain.

Sorry so long winded post but getting worried .................

Thanks, Derek.

Hi Dq,

As you may have noticed, there is a currnet thread on sending recorded mail to ATOS, here :

www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/forum?func=vie...id=10&id=94274#94274

As you have received your ESA50, you may wish to consider :

Using The PDF Version Of The ESA50 Questionnaire

Whilst referring to the associated section in our :

ESA Claims Guides

With respect to the ESA50, see :

How long do I have to complete the ESA50?

ESA50 too big for the envelope

The Medical Statements that they refer to are Fit/Sick Notes (MED 3's).

The Medical Documents that they refer to would be such things as letters of support from one's G.P., Consultant or other treating HCP, extracts from your G.P. hospital records, x-ray, MRI scan reports etc, letter from your G.P. to a Consultant or vice-versa, etc, etc.

Sending a copy of your ESA50 and any supporting evidence to the DWP ESA DM, it totally at your own discretion, and not obligatory. It may be done as a back-up, in case any thing is lost at the ATOS end, as it is the DWP ESA DM who actually makes the decision. Therefore, it is only a safe guard.

It is entirely possible to be awarded ESA in either WRAG or SG, without any extra evidenece, but you will need to go into great detail in your ESA50 , on how your limitations as a result of your medical conditions fit in with the WRAG and SG Descriptors, see :

Qualifying for the Support Group

&

Qualifying for the WRAG


You can use letters of support from friends, relatives, or carers who know how your limitations affect you on a daily basis.

You could also write an hourly breakdown of a "typical day" (24 hour period) in your life.

bro58

Hi Bro58,
can you slightly elaborate on how an hourly breakdown of a "typical day" would be of any benefit???

I am rather intriged as to how this would be of any help!!!
Would one have to write down things done/not done on an hourly basis??? Also notwo days are the same.

Sorry if i come across as a bit dim

Thanks.

Radhika.

Hi r,

That's why it is called an account of a "typical day" wherein it does not have to be an account of how things are on every day, just on the majority of days.

An account of a "typical day" can be broken down on an hourly basis, say from 7AM to 7AM. You can then go into detail of how often help may be needed through the night, how much meaningful sleep is obtained, cooking and eating arrangments, washing and toilet needs etc, where help is needed, and how the limitations impact on normal day to day activities.

All the above can then be tied in to the descriptors, with respect to a "real life" scenario.

bro58

Thanks.
Just to make sure i have understood this correctly,

7am woke up, took X minutes to get out of bed due to stiff back (effects of spondylosis) and strong medication side effects, around 8am, brushed teeth, could not stand, had to sit on stool, 8.15am,got dressed, took half hour due to difficulties in

---

8.45am had to rest as

---

, 9.30am did

---

with help from and so on, till yoou get to going to bed.

Hope that is about right:-)

Radhika.

radhika wrote:

Thanks.
Just to make sure i have understood this correctly,

7am woke up, took X minutes to get out of bed due to stiff back (effects of spondylosis) and strong medication side effects, around 8am, brushed teeth, could not stand, had to sit on stool, 8.15am,got dressed, took half hour due to difficulties in

---

8.45am had to rest as

---

, 9.30am did

---

with help from and so on, till yoou get to going to bed.

Hope that is about right:-)

Radhika.

Hi r,

Of that ilk, Yes.

bro58

bro58 wrote:It may well be worth while contacting the reception at your G.P. practice with respect to gaining copies of your G.P. records.

You may well be lucky, regarding time constraints, if it works on a similar system to my own. They have an IT person who comes in once a month to deal with all requests for copies of G.P. records, etc. When I requested mine, I was lucky in that he was due in 7 days time. I gained copy of mine on a CD, within 8 days, for a fee of £20.

In my GP practice (and the one I was at before) the practice manager or one of his admin staff would sit with you which you viewed your records on the screen and then you could reuqest which documents to have printed off.

This is not strictly a Subject Access Request but is quick and gets what you want.