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8 years 2 months ago #151770 by Miss Haversham
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Hello
I have my form to fill in to apply for PIP.
Ive been on low rate DLA since 2012.
Ive been agoraphobic for 22 years. If I have to go places like dentist I have to be sedated or calmed down with diazepam for short journeys I haven't been any where on my own in all that time but it's very rare I go any where because it's very stressfull. But I have a small dog and I can walk him a little way up and down my street as long as I can see my door will this go against me? Would this be classed as being able to plan a journey or go out alone?
I have read through the advice notes and not sure what to do.
Would be grateful for any advice or guidence. :)

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8 years 2 months ago - 8 years 2 months ago #151828 by Gordon
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Welcome to the forum, you might want to have a look at the following FAQ which explain where everything is

Welcome to Benefits and Work

In case you are not aware, your real name appears to be showing in the forum, if you want to change this then follow the instructions in the following FAQ

My full name is showing, how can I stop it?


It is what it is, if you do these things then you must explain them on the form, this does not mean that you cannot qualify but it will make it more difficult.

You need to have a read of the PIP Claim guide to understand the criteria against which you are being assessed and in particular the section that covers "reliably" as this may help you to explain why you can walk your dog but could not make an unfamiliar journey.

If you have further questions then please reply to this post and we will do our best to help.

Gordon

Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems
Last edit: 8 years 2 months ago by Gordon.

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8 years 2 months ago #151895 by Miss Haversham
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I don't understand why we pick a user name different from real name and this site chooses to publish your real name in posts.
Thank you for your reply I'm still not sure how i stand I have read the guide will just have to try and explain best i can and take my chance.

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8 years 2 months ago #151902 by bro58
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Miss Haversham wrote: I don't understand why we pick a user name different from real name and this site chooses to publish your real name in posts.
Thank you for your reply I'm still not sure how i stand I have read the guide will just have to try and explain best i can and take my chance.


Hi MH,

The information from the following links should help :

PIP Claims Guide. (2nd Link down the page)

How The PIP Points Scoring System Works.

PIP Self Test

This Post in our Spotlight Area at the top of The forum.

If after reading through the above you have further queries, please pose them by replying to this topic and we will try to help ! :)

You should Bookmark/Favourite this page in your Internet Browser now. That way you can return to this topic easily to pose any further queries that you may have by replying to the topic.

See : This Topic also !

Thanks in anticipation of your future co-operation in keeping all your PIP related queries to this topic ! :)

bro58

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8 years 1 month ago #154577 by Miss Haversham
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Hello I got the dreaded brown envolope today after I filled in my PIP form I scored 4 for mobility regarding planning and following a journey and 2 for engaging and understanding face to face. I want to do a mandatory consideration. Do I have to ring them first and then send it in or could I just write it out and send it without ringing them?
Thank you for your advice

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8 years 1 month ago - 8 years 1 month ago #154587 by bro58
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Miss Haversham wrote: Hello I got the dreaded brown envolope today after I filled in my PIP form I scored 4 for mobility regarding planning and following a journey and 2 for engaging and understanding face to face. I want to do a mandatory consideration. Do I have to ring them first and then send it in or could I just write it out and send it without ringing them?
Thank you for your advice


Hi MH,

Sorry to here that your PIP transfer failed !!! :(

Read through the following generic PIP MR/Appeal advice which should help :

You have one month from the date of the PIP Decision Notice letter to make a written request for a Mandatory Reconsideration (MR) of the PIP decision.

Sending Documents to the DWP.

You could also ring the PIP Helpline :

Telephone: 0345 850 3322
Textphone: 0345 601 6677
Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm

To request a copy of The PA4 PIP Medical Report compiled by the PIP Assessor at your face to face and sent to The DWP PIP DM to be used when the DM came to their decision.

If you have any problems obtaining The PA4 with a verbal request, you can make a written request which should be done as a separate issue to any MR request :

You can do this using a SAR Form :

SAR Form Download

From this page :

DWP Data Protection Policy

Or you can make the request in the form of a letter, as long as you make it clear that you are making a formal SAR under The Data Protection Act 1998.

Address the envelope : FAO The Data Controller, at the Benefits Office dealing with your PIP.

Write DPA 1998 SAR in front, top, left corner of envelope.

Once received, they have 40 calendar days to comply.

You should not miss your one month deadline if The PA4 or any other supporting evidence that you may be awaiting has not arrived.

You can make comment that you have requested this and will submit further evidence if applicable when you receive it.

Once you have The PA4, you can then pose any counter arguments to the PIP Assessors recommendations.

e.g. If they are stating that you can carry out a particular PIP Activity, has it been taken into account that to be classed as being able to carry out a PIP Activity, you must be able to do so Reliably and Safely for The Majority of Days

If the Assessor has stated that they witnessed you Walking a set distance have they taken into account the above, the time it took you to do so, and any pain, discomfort and breathless, etc that you may have suffered whilst doing so ? etc, etc, etc !!

You should also concentrate on reiterating where and why you should have scored the extra points with respect to the applicable PIP Activities and the appropriate scoring PIP Descriptor for that Activity, whilst cross-referencing to any medical evidence that you have, or may have already provided which indicates that you should have.

You should be aware that when you request an MR, any current PIP Awards, Daily Living and/or Mobility, that you might have, can be increased, reduced or taken away altogether, as they will look at the whole PIP Awards afresh.

Obviously if you have no current PIP Award, there is no risk involved.

See : PIP MR/Appeals Guidance.

Disability Rights UK Factsheet - Appeals and Mandatory Reconsiderations.

Once you have gone through The MR Process, if you are still unsuccessful, you have one month from the date of The MR Decision Notice Letter to appeal directly to The Tribunal Service. (TS)

You should do this using one copy of The MR Notice letter (keep the othercopy) and the : SSCS 1 Form (Download Link)

All this is explained in our PIP Appeals Guidance

See also : PIP Self Test

PIP Points Scoring System

&

PIP Claims Guide. (2nd Link down the page)

Please keep us updated !

bro58
Last edit: 8 years 1 month ago by bro58.

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