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6 years 1 month ago #225508 by Chris
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Gordon,
The aid is not prescribed by a health professional - it is simply any effective sound blocking device or combination of more than one - but it is recognised by my specialist as the only tool help manage some of the impact of the condition, but largely I am as limited as I would without it.
Thank for the advice. I have actually done just that. I explain the basics of what it is like to live with my condition (descriptors) and explain the small benefits of using the aid but largely still as limited with than without in most instances.
The aid is not prescribed by a health professional - it is simply any effective sound blocking device or combination of more than one - but it is recognised by my specialist as the only tool help manage some of the impact of the condition, but largely I am as limited as I would without it.
Thank for the advice. I have actually done just that. I explain the basics of what it is like to live with my condition (descriptors) and explain the small benefits of using the aid but largely still as limited with than without in most instances.
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6 years 1 month ago #225554 by Chris
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Gordon,
As I'm checking my MR letter before sending, a new question has arisen regarding the part where I highlight the discrepancies within the assessment report.
For instance: The assessor says in one place that I become physically fatigued and my legs start burning after standing for more than a few seconds, but the assessor does not score any points for not being able to walk more than a few seconds.
My question is that the first part of the statement, i.e. the assessor says that..., is actually what I said the assessor which she then recorded in her report.
Does that count as a point of discrepancy in the report? The fact the assessor wrote it down, doesn't necessarily mean she agreed with it? I'm a bit confused how I should use that information in the most effective way in my MR. Would you have any suggestions please?
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As I'm checking my MR letter before sending, a new question has arisen regarding the part where I highlight the discrepancies within the assessment report.
For instance: The assessor says in one place that I become physically fatigued and my legs start burning after standing for more than a few seconds, but the assessor does not score any points for not being able to walk more than a few seconds.
My question is that the first part of the statement, i.e. the assessor says that..., is actually what I said the assessor which she then recorded in her report.
Does that count as a point of discrepancy in the report? The fact the assessor wrote it down, doesn't necessarily mean she agreed with it? I'm a bit confused how I should use that information in the most effective way in my MR. Would you have any suggestions please?
Thank you
Chris
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6 years 1 month ago #225562 by Chris
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Gordon,
Out of curiosity, why do you feel that, in my MR letter, it is preferable to present the testimony before the discrepancies between the report and the assessment? Is it to do with strength of evidence.
I'm asking because, for some activities it seems that the overall argument flows better when leaving the testimony for the end. I don't know... Just trying to give myself the best chances at this MR stage...
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Chris
Out of curiosity, why do you feel that, in my MR letter, it is preferable to present the testimony before the discrepancies between the report and the assessment? Is it to do with strength of evidence.
I'm asking because, for some activities it seems that the overall argument flows better when leaving the testimony for the end. I don't know... Just trying to give myself the best chances at this MR stage...
Thank you,
Chris
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6 years 1 month ago #225577 by Gordon
Look at the points you mention in isolation, so you say the report says
"The assessor says in one place that I become physically fatigued and my legs start burning after standing for more than a few seconds"
why does this mean that you would have problems with walking, standing is different from walking, in fact, the "burning" might be the result of your standing. I'll stress that I doubt that this is the case but assessors and DMs have limited imagination and are very bad at connecting the dots, you need to spell out cause and effect clearly in your MR.
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As I'm checking my MR letter before sending, a new question has arisen regarding the part where I highlight the discrepancies within the assessment report.
For instance: The assessor says in one place that I become physically fatigued and my legs start burning after standing for more than a few seconds, but the assessor does not score any points for not being able to walk more than a few seconds.
My question is that the first part of the statement, i.e. the assessor says that..., is actually what I said the assessor which she then recorded in her report.
Does that count as a point of discrepancy in the report? The fact the assessor wrote it down, doesn't necessarily mean she agreed with it? I'm a bit confused how I should use that information in the most effective way in my MR. Would you have any suggestions please?
Thank you
Chris
Look at the points you mention in isolation, so you say the report says
"The assessor says in one place that I become physically fatigued and my legs start burning after standing for more than a few seconds"
why does this mean that you would have problems with walking, standing is different from walking, in fact, the "burning" might be the result of your standing. I'll stress that I doubt that this is the case but assessors and DMs have limited imagination and are very bad at connecting the dots, you need to spell out cause and effect clearly in your MR.
Gordon
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6 years 1 month ago #225578 by Gordon
Two reasons;
First, you can destroy the report but if you have not shown that you meet the criteria you still won't score.
Secondly, based on what I see in the forum, a lot of members do not understand the criteria; they try and bring the Descriptors to their conditions which will never work, they don't take note where there are multiple criteria that need to be met and they often fail to make good use of the reliability criteria.
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Chris wrote: Gordon,
Out of curiosity, why do you feel that, in my MR letter, it is preferable to present the testimony before the discrepancies between the report and the assessment? Is it to do with strength of evidence.
I'm asking because, for some activities it seems that the overall argument flows better when leaving the testimony for the end. I don't know... Just trying to give myself the best chances at this MR stage...
Thank you,
Chris
Two reasons;
First, you can destroy the report but if you have not shown that you meet the criteria you still won't score.
Secondly, based on what I see in the forum, a lot of members do not understand the criteria; they try and bring the Descriptors to their conditions which will never work, they don't take note where there are multiple criteria that need to be met and they often fail to make good use of the reliability criteria.
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6 years 1 month ago #225625 by Chris
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Gordon,
Thank you, interesting nuance. Am I misunderstanding what standing means (English is not my first language)? To me standing is different from standing up. Standing means I am already in an upright position, supporting myself with my legs. I always assumed that walking is harder than standing because not only you have to be upright but also you need to be able to move forward. So if I can't even be standing, I have no chance to be walking...
I get your point though that the descriptor doesn't talk about standing, but refers to walking, and that it requires some joining the dots if I talk about standing only.
So I need to ensure that I make that clear in my notes.
Thank you, interesting nuance. Am I misunderstanding what standing means (English is not my first language)? To me standing is different from standing up. Standing means I am already in an upright position, supporting myself with my legs. I always assumed that walking is harder than standing because not only you have to be upright but also you need to be able to move forward. So if I can't even be standing, I have no chance to be walking...
I get your point though that the descriptor doesn't talk about standing, but refers to walking, and that it requires some joining the dots if I talk about standing only.
So I need to ensure that I make that clear in my notes.
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