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4 years 4 months ago #253989 by routemaster
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If i need someone with me whenever i go out but rarely go out will that go against me when i'm been assessed for the mobility component of pip ?
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4 years 4 months ago #253998 by Gary
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Hi Ben
Any physical problems you have are covered by the Moving Around activity they will not be considered for Going Out.
The Going Out activity looks at three things:
Planning a route - this is primarily a cognitive or sensory (e.g. blindness) activity. You are being asked about the problems you would have with working out how to get from one place to another, you do not need to be able to follow the route that you are planning.
Undertaking a Journey - this is to do with mental health issues such as agoraphobia and social anxiety and is concerned with you leaving the house to go somewhere, they will be interested in the things that stop you doing this. You need to show that you would suffer "overwhelming psychological distress" to meet the criteria.
Following a route - This activity about the problems you would have navigating a route. So are there problems; cognitive, sensory or mental health issues that would prevent you from doing this? This is different from undertaking a journey, in fact, if you cannot undertake a journey then you will not score points for following one and vice versa.
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Any physical problems you have are covered by the Moving Around activity they will not be considered for Going Out.
The Going Out activity looks at three things:
Planning a route - this is primarily a cognitive or sensory (e.g. blindness) activity. You are being asked about the problems you would have with working out how to get from one place to another, you do not need to be able to follow the route that you are planning.
Undertaking a Journey - this is to do with mental health issues such as agoraphobia and social anxiety and is concerned with you leaving the house to go somewhere, they will be interested in the things that stop you doing this. You need to show that you would suffer "overwhelming psychological distress" to meet the criteria.
Following a route - This activity about the problems you would have navigating a route. So are there problems; cognitive, sensory or mental health issues that would prevent you from doing this? This is different from undertaking a journey, in fact, if you cannot undertake a journey then you will not score points for following one and vice versa.
Gary
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4 years 4 months ago #254053 by routemaster
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Thanks for the reply Gary
I managed to complete my telephone assessment for dla to pip which took about an hour.And it was a struggle and i had to stop a couple of times.The assessor was ok and acknowledged how challenging the assessment had been for me but now i'm worried the fact i was able to complete it will be used against me.And that i'll be classified as not having problems inter-acting with people even though i'm largely housebound and because of my mental health unable to mix with anyone -even family other than on e-mail.
I felt my assessor rushed me on the mobility issue -perhaps because i kept asking how much longer it would be.And kept asking me why i couldn't use public transport even though i said i'd had bad experiences previously because of my health problems and i just couldn't face it.But then it felt like words were being put in my mouth and for the second half of the assessment my mind kept going blank.He And now i've got this sinking feeling that like so many others i'm going to lose my benefits because my assessor was actually a friendly assassin who's going to lie and twist round everything i said.
I know there's a good success rate for appeals but i physically couldn't face a tribunal.And i don't know how i'll cope in the interim period with a cut in benefits.I'm really not in a good place right now and whilst i keep telling myself there're many others in the same boat it's not alleviating the heightened anxiety and sense of despair i now feel.
I managed to complete my telephone assessment for dla to pip which took about an hour.And it was a struggle and i had to stop a couple of times.The assessor was ok and acknowledged how challenging the assessment had been for me but now i'm worried the fact i was able to complete it will be used against me.And that i'll be classified as not having problems inter-acting with people even though i'm largely housebound and because of my mental health unable to mix with anyone -even family other than on e-mail.
I felt my assessor rushed me on the mobility issue -perhaps because i kept asking how much longer it would be.And kept asking me why i couldn't use public transport even though i said i'd had bad experiences previously because of my health problems and i just couldn't face it.But then it felt like words were being put in my mouth and for the second half of the assessment my mind kept going blank.He And now i've got this sinking feeling that like so many others i'm going to lose my benefits because my assessor was actually a friendly assassin who's going to lie and twist round everything i said.
I know there's a good success rate for appeals but i physically couldn't face a tribunal.And i don't know how i'll cope in the interim period with a cut in benefits.I'm really not in a good place right now and whilst i keep telling myself there're many others in the same boat it's not alleviating the heightened anxiety and sense of despair i now feel.
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4 years 4 months ago - 4 years 4 months ago #254059 by Gary
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Hi Ben
Thank you for the update, you should wait a couple of days then contact the DWP for a copy of the assessment report (PA4) and follow up the request in writing. Once you have the assessment report you will have a better understanding of how the DWP Decision Maker has come to their conclusions and will then be able to argue against them.
There is a window for you to write to the Decision Maker before you get your decision letter, but you will need to be quick. Understand that the assessor is offering an opinion if they say that you can do the PIP activities, tackling these head-on is unlikely to be successful, you need to show that the basis of that opinion is founded on incorrect information, so try and refer to your evidence to undermine what they have said. Also, try and stick to issues that lead to your scoring points, I often hear members referring to the assessors spelling, as an example, whilst it may show a lack of professionalism, raising it as an issue isn't going to help you get an award.
Lastly, make sure that you understand the criteria that you are being assessed against you can put the best case forward that is possible but you won't score points if you do not meet the PIP Descriptors. And although it might be tempting never say that the assessor is a liar.
Lets hope for a good outcome.
Gary
Thank you for the update, you should wait a couple of days then contact the DWP for a copy of the assessment report (PA4) and follow up the request in writing. Once you have the assessment report you will have a better understanding of how the DWP Decision Maker has come to their conclusions and will then be able to argue against them.
There is a window for you to write to the Decision Maker before you get your decision letter, but you will need to be quick. Understand that the assessor is offering an opinion if they say that you can do the PIP activities, tackling these head-on is unlikely to be successful, you need to show that the basis of that opinion is founded on incorrect information, so try and refer to your evidence to undermine what they have said. Also, try and stick to issues that lead to your scoring points, I often hear members referring to the assessors spelling, as an example, whilst it may show a lack of professionalism, raising it as an issue isn't going to help you get an award.
Lastly, make sure that you understand the criteria that you are being assessed against you can put the best case forward that is possible but you won't score points if you do not meet the PIP Descriptors. And although it might be tempting never say that the assessor is a liar.
Lets hope for a good outcome.
Gary
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4 years 4 months ago #254433 by routemaster
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I've received the assessors report and if the dwp decision -maker goes with her recommendations i won't qualify for either the care or mobility components of pip.If that's the case do i contact the office dealing with my claim and ask for the mandatory reconsideration.? And do they then send me a form to complete stating why i want them to reconsider it.?
As for the assessors report she stated i wasn't on the maximum dose of the medication i'm on which isn't true.She also acknowledged my condition left me largely housebound and that i needed someone with me when going to unfamiliar places.However in her conclusion she said i had no mobility issues .She also said i didn't meet the threshold of overwhelming psychological distress -although i'm not sure how that's defined especially over the phone.
Could you please confirm that the fact i need someone with me when going to somewhere unfamiliar should entitle me to the mobility component.Thanks..
As for the assessors report she stated i wasn't on the maximum dose of the medication i'm on which isn't true.She also acknowledged my condition left me largely housebound and that i needed someone with me when going to unfamiliar places.However in her conclusion she said i had no mobility issues .She also said i didn't meet the threshold of overwhelming psychological distress -although i'm not sure how that's defined especially over the phone.
Could you please confirm that the fact i need someone with me when going to somewhere unfamiliar should entitle me to the mobility component.Thanks..
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4 years 4 months ago #254434 by routemaster
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ps Sorry ,looking upthread i think Gary's already answered my question about having someone with me on the rare occasion i leave the flat and go somewhere unfamiliar.I would however still appreciate some guidance over how the mandatory reconsideration works.Thanks,
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