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4 years 2 months ago #255611 by Silverfox 7
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Hi I have explained in a previous message i am recovering from a stroke so i hope you can understand this message.
I have just spoken to someone at PIP regarding my wife’s claim and to tell them her health had deteriorated and also there had been a change in her medication.
and how is her claim progressing.
The lady I spoke too was very nice and helpful she asked my Wife a few questions and she soon realised that my wife has a cognitive problem and was getting confused, she recommended that I need to be her appointee on the day of her assessment.
She suggested she would transfer me through too Capita and i need to ask how long will it be before my wife’s assessment and to tell them that PIP are sending over an up to date report of my health and Medication plus the
Permission of the appointee.
Once connected to Capita I asked how soon will my wife be assessed she told me within the next few weeks, I told her that the PIP department will be sending a message explaining the change in my Wife’s health and her medication and that i was to be her appointee on her assessment day, the lady said that i can only be an appointee if the PIP allow it and they will have to wait for there message to arrive, she asked about the change of health and Medication.
Having told her the changes She said that my Wife may not get a call and we may just receive a letter showing her entitlement. My question is IF my Wife receives a call how much are they allowed to ask her before i can start answering there
Questions and if anyone has Experienced this can you give me advice.
Thank you and stay safe everyone.
I have just spoken to someone at PIP regarding my wife’s claim and to tell them her health had deteriorated and also there had been a change in her medication.
and how is her claim progressing.
The lady I spoke too was very nice and helpful she asked my Wife a few questions and she soon realised that my wife has a cognitive problem and was getting confused, she recommended that I need to be her appointee on the day of her assessment.
She suggested she would transfer me through too Capita and i need to ask how long will it be before my wife’s assessment and to tell them that PIP are sending over an up to date report of my health and Medication plus the
Permission of the appointee.
Once connected to Capita I asked how soon will my wife be assessed she told me within the next few weeks, I told her that the PIP department will be sending a message explaining the change in my Wife’s health and her medication and that i was to be her appointee on her assessment day, the lady said that i can only be an appointee if the PIP allow it and they will have to wait for there message to arrive, she asked about the change of health and Medication.
Having told her the changes She said that my Wife may not get a call and we may just receive a letter showing her entitlement. My question is IF my Wife receives a call how much are they allowed to ask her before i can start answering there
Questions and if anyone has Experienced this can you give me advice.
Thank you and stay safe everyone.
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4 years 2 months ago - 4 years 2 months ago #255615 by Catherine
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Hello Silverfox,
And yes, I think have understood your message perfectly.
You can apply to become your wife’s appointee, and the details of how to do this are here.
If you go down this route you legally become the person with whom the DWP communicates with regard to all aspects of her benefits, not just PIP. So in an application for benefits although it is her name on the form, it is your signature, at an assessment it is you representing her, although you can choose to invite her to attend with you, her benefit money is paid to you for her benefit, you have to inform the DWP of changes of circumstances etc etc.
Because this is very significant step, there are obviously checks, as described in the link above. Pre Covid these checks used to involve a face to face interview, but currently it is a phone call with both sides, in your case with you and your wife, independently.
If you have been down this process and been appointed as an appointee, then you have full legal rights to represent your wife through this entire process and anything else linked to DWP benefits.
If you choose not go down this route, or you have started it but not yet been appointed as her appointee there is a possibility of being her representative.
Assuming your wife has the cognitive capability you need to send a letter to the DWP in her name as soon as possible, saying that she is not capable of representing herself at the PIP telephone assessment and she is nominating you to do it.
The letter needs to include the
• name of her chosen representative (i.e. you) (who must be over 18)
• her relationship to you (wife)
• Consent for the her personal information related to the assessment to be shared with you
• Assurance that you know about her disability / medical condition and how this impacts on her mobility and ability to complete daily living activities.
She needs to sign that that letter. You also need to send them a letter, in the same envelope, saying that your wife has asked you to represent her at the PIP telephone assessment and you are willing to do so. As with everything, keep a copy of those letters. (If you happen to have any evidence of why she cannot represent herself, I would include it with these letters as well as with the application form.)
When you receive the phone call for the assessment you will need to be able to give your wife’s full name, her address and date of birth, the reason you are representing her, your relationship to her and confirmation that you know about her disability / medical condition and how this impacts on her mobility and ability to complete daily living activities. Finally you should be asked if you are still willing to act as her representative.
At this point, you may need to stand your ground, and even become obstinate. The Assessor may try to pull your wife into the assessment given that in reality she is likely to be in the same building. You may need to become a ‘broken record’ and just keep insisting that your wife does not have the capacity to represent herself (or whatever it is) and has requested that you do it for her. You have the right!
(Note unlike becoming an Appointee, this explicit consent does not last forever, so if it is going to be an ongoing situation you do need to apply for Appointeeship.)
Silverfox, I am sorry that this is a rather long answer, but I have tried to tell you everything I think you might need to know.
Do come back to us if you have any more questions.
I hope everything goes well for you and your wife.
Catherine
And yes, I think have understood your message perfectly.
You can apply to become your wife’s appointee, and the details of how to do this are here.
If you go down this route you legally become the person with whom the DWP communicates with regard to all aspects of her benefits, not just PIP. So in an application for benefits although it is her name on the form, it is your signature, at an assessment it is you representing her, although you can choose to invite her to attend with you, her benefit money is paid to you for her benefit, you have to inform the DWP of changes of circumstances etc etc.
Because this is very significant step, there are obviously checks, as described in the link above. Pre Covid these checks used to involve a face to face interview, but currently it is a phone call with both sides, in your case with you and your wife, independently.
If you have been down this process and been appointed as an appointee, then you have full legal rights to represent your wife through this entire process and anything else linked to DWP benefits.
If you choose not go down this route, or you have started it but not yet been appointed as her appointee there is a possibility of being her representative.
Assuming your wife has the cognitive capability you need to send a letter to the DWP in her name as soon as possible, saying that she is not capable of representing herself at the PIP telephone assessment and she is nominating you to do it.
The letter needs to include the
• name of her chosen representative (i.e. you) (who must be over 18)
• her relationship to you (wife)
• Consent for the her personal information related to the assessment to be shared with you
• Assurance that you know about her disability / medical condition and how this impacts on her mobility and ability to complete daily living activities.
She needs to sign that that letter. You also need to send them a letter, in the same envelope, saying that your wife has asked you to represent her at the PIP telephone assessment and you are willing to do so. As with everything, keep a copy of those letters. (If you happen to have any evidence of why she cannot represent herself, I would include it with these letters as well as with the application form.)
When you receive the phone call for the assessment you will need to be able to give your wife’s full name, her address and date of birth, the reason you are representing her, your relationship to her and confirmation that you know about her disability / medical condition and how this impacts on her mobility and ability to complete daily living activities. Finally you should be asked if you are still willing to act as her representative.
At this point, you may need to stand your ground, and even become obstinate. The Assessor may try to pull your wife into the assessment given that in reality she is likely to be in the same building. You may need to become a ‘broken record’ and just keep insisting that your wife does not have the capacity to represent herself (or whatever it is) and has requested that you do it for her. You have the right!
(Note unlike becoming an Appointee, this explicit consent does not last forever, so if it is going to be an ongoing situation you do need to apply for Appointeeship.)
Silverfox, I am sorry that this is a rather long answer, but I have tried to tell you everything I think you might need to know.
Do come back to us if you have any more questions.
I hope everything goes well for you and your wife.
Catherine
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4 years 2 months ago #255701 by Silverfox 7
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Hi Catherine,
Thank you so much for your help full answer I appreciate it, I had not got any intentions of becoming my wifes appointee it was the Lady at the DWP department that suggested I do it, as she hasnt told me what to do to become an appointee and i havent filled in the appropriate paper work I cannot be her appointee. thank you again.
Thank you so much for your help full answer I appreciate it, I had not got any intentions of becoming my wifes appointee it was the Lady at the DWP department that suggested I do it, as she hasnt told me what to do to become an appointee and i havent filled in the appropriate paper work I cannot be her appointee. thank you again.
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4 years 2 months ago #255702 by Catherine
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Hi Silverfox,
Although I think we all have horror stories of the DWP and decisions they have made, most people you speak to there are really helpful. I am pleased you had such a person!
Catherine
Although I think we all have horror stories of the DWP and decisions they have made, most people you speak to there are really helpful. I am pleased you had such a person!
Catherine
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4 years 2 months ago #255707 by denby
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I have to give credit where it is due, out of four phone calls on our daughter's claim last year, the first was really unhelpful, just civil with no humanity or warmth, the second was totally lovely, understanding, and took the action that I asked for (oh the relief), and the third and fourth were very fair and reasonable.
I blame the politicians for setting up a system that allows any of the staff to cause unnecessary stress whether on the phone or at their desks, and definitely seeks to reduce payments whatever the admin cost - ie the hostile environment. 'Fear' is a word that is having to appear on this forum too often as a result. Denby
I blame the politicians for setting up a system that allows any of the staff to cause unnecessary stress whether on the phone or at their desks, and definitely seeks to reduce payments whatever the admin cost - ie the hostile environment. 'Fear' is a word that is having to appear on this forum too often as a result. Denby
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